Ring Magazine's 2021 PFP top 10 Championship record (Febuary 2021)

Kazuto Ioka is disgustingly low on that list. He should not be below Loma, Lopez, Spence, Estrada, Taylor, or hell even Inoue (whom I am a massive fanboy of).

 

How did Lomachenko jump right into title fights so quickly? Isn't it practically a law in boxing that you have to fight a bunch of bums in your first 15 fights or so?

 

Actually gives a decent list all things considered.

 

Any list with Bud Crawford above Canelo is funny.

Canelo has fought and beaten practically everyone.

Who was Bud's toughest opponent? Jeff Horn? C'mon.

I will never understand this Bud Crawford nonsense.

The biggest fight of Bud Crawford's title run came against a guy (Amir Khan) who might be worst opponent Canelo's faced in the last decade.

 

Hes was already 1 of the top p4p fighters before he beat Horn and the way he easily demolished Horn then beating Khan and Brook as impressively if not more then Canelo and GGG doesnt make it that outrageous

 

Like I said, I don't get that AT ALL. Not even a little bit. (LOL)

Beating Thomas Dulorme, Victor Postol and Julius Indongo makes you #1 pound for pound? HOW?

It's silly. And he isn't.

 

I totally see what your saying about Canelo deserving to be above Crawford and i thought pretty much the same about him being overrated and questioned his level of opposition in the lead up to horn fight.
I think it's close with Canelos having better overall resume but Crawford recent performances have been really impressive and hopefully he gets to further prove it against the other high quality guys in his division

 

Fair enough.

 

Out of interest do you think hes even best welterweight in the world currently and would beating Pac and Spence change your mind?

 

I don't think Crawford is the best welterweight. I don't think Usyk is the best heavyweight. I think Canelo is the best middleweight/super middleweight. I try to avoid pound-for-pound lists because I find the whole thing kind of ridiculous. But I have no idea how people who aren't even rated the best in their divisions show up on pound-for-pound lists.

Sometimes I think these guys get voted onto these lists and then the guys who make them can't take them off, or they'll have to explain themselves. People criticize belts and sanctioning bodies, and then Crawford unifies an awful division and people go "He's UNIFIED!!!!" So what. (LOL) If the division sucks, it sucks. But then he's on the list. So, when he moves up and he isn't remotely the best in his new division, he's still on there.

None of it makes any sense to me.

I know it was officially started when Henry Armstrong was champ of multiple divisions and Ring wanted a way to recognize him because Joe Louis was heavyweight champ and it was clear Armstrong couldn't beat Louis, but they wanted to recognize Henry's accomplishments. But you don't have to make a whole top 10 list EVERY year when clearly there aren't 10 fighters year in and year out who are doing anything amazing.

Canelo deserves it, though. I don't know if there are nine others at this point worthy of even writing down.

It should be a special honor for one boxer who is just tearing thru the sport. Not, we need 10 guys to complete a top 10 list, who unified a belt recently? Okay, Josh Taylor. Good. He's on.

 

Yeah fair enough and i agree with much of this and dont take most p4p lists to seriously myself, so many different criteria people compared to others.
If i hadn't scored his fights with GGG as losses(dont consider them huge robberies tho),he would be clearly the top dog for me as well