Ring magazines All time top 10 South Korean fighters as of July 1993

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  1. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok id llike to hear your opinions on the Rings rankings.. As i know there is some real fight buffs here on the lighter divisions, where most of the Koreans fought.. Especially since i know Yuh and Chang are real popular on the classic...
    Rings 93 ratings
    1.Myung Woo Yuh
    2.Jung Koo Chang
    3.Soo Hwan Hong
    4.Chan Hee Park
    5.Ki soo Kim
    6.Sung Kil Moon
    7.Jae Doo Yuh
    8.Chul Ho Kim
    9.In Chul Baek
    10.Chong Pal Park

    Ok i thought they were a little generous to Korean big men Jae doo Yuh(resume not all that or opposition outside of Wajima win... This list was damn confusing. .It was hard not getting there names mixed up when i wrote them down(all same names just in dirent order:lol:) Also lot of these guys were hard to sepearate pretty close... South Korea use to be deep with talent,, kind of wierd how there isnt any one of note currently.. Or even in recent years.. Hears my top 10 list maybe the hardest one ive ever done:patsch

    1.Myung Woo Yuh llittle more consistent than Chang but take your pick

    2.Jung Koo Chang althought little more talented, fought tougher comp

    3.Sung Kil Moon impressive resume and big wins over excellent comp 2
    titles. Whupped by Kaosai though at JB.

    4.Chul Ho Kim short carer but great wins and great opposition

    5.Chan Hee Park same as Kim^^ you could swich 3,4,5 any way you want

    6.Seung Hoon Lee not even on their list lost big but won big or hung tough with outstanding opposition. Should be 2 division champ but robbed at JB.

    7.Yung kyun Kim (still fighting in 93) .great win over outstanding Esparragoza(who was a pfp entrant) as well as 8 defenses over solid comp.,, Went 1-2 with talented Eloy Rojas, But the 2 close losses were at the end of career.

    8.Chong Pol Park - gets in over conquer Baek.. He was at the end when he lost to him also like his 2 wins over talented champ Lindell Holmes,SUtterland,Curto 2x, and defended Super Mw title 10X


    9, In Jin Cho (fought after rankings) I like his 2 close wins over a prime Penalosa.. Also beat talented Julio Zarate and made 5 title defenses.

    10 In Jin Chi - Wanted to rank him hire as hth i was impressed.. Gave a prime Morales all he wanted.. Controversial draw with Brodie, but dominated in rematch... BUt only made 2 title defenses before losing hometown split decision.. Then retired shortly after... HTH hes a beast:bbb

    Just missing the list Yong Kang Kim,In Chul Baek,jae dee yuh and whole bunch of lighter weight champs, whose names all sound alike:patsch
     
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  2. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wheres all the lighter weight fanatics? Fle,G Pater,Lora,El Bujia,Addie (probaby missed a few more) who always dropping.. Jik to bu, II wu Kim like if they were houselhold names?
     
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  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    My thoughts are Sung Kil Moon is a bit low on the list. I would say Jung Koo Chang was the best.

    The surname's of Koreans are very similar. You have to be careful when looking at their records, because many of them might have beaten a Park, Kim, or Moon, but not the famous one!
     
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  4. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    oh man, not again!






































    :D
     
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  5. D.T

    D.T Guest

    those name are all the same
     
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  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Boiled or fried rice?
     
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  7. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Moon, Yuh, Chang and Chan-Hee Park would be the big 4 for most.

    After that you've got Soo-Hwan Hong(probably the most famous Korean fighter ever), Chong-Pal Park, Tae-Shik Kim, Kang-Il Suh, Ki-Soo Kim and a few others fighting it out for fifth.

    It's a bit of a crapshoot after those top 4 though, imo.Basically a whole load of fighters on the same tier or two.

    Chul-Ho Kim is one fighter i don't think belongs near the top however.He was a trier with good stamina and little natural ability that won his title because Orono fought him as a safe fight too soon after an operation and got stopped with a single bodyshot, while coasting along winning handily.

    he did overachieve slightly afterward by avoiding a rematch as long as he could, beating the decent Jensen and giving a good account of himself late against a disinterested possibly out of shape eary version of Watanabe.He was still lucky to get that decision and also had a controversal one with another limited workhorse Raul Valdez.

    An aging Orono finally got his rematch and totally slaughtered him.

    Orono is probably the most underrated of the 80s superflyweights actually, maybe because his prime was brief and came slightly before the other bigger names.Mostly remembered for the Galaxy KO at the end of his career, but his legs had gone by then.
     
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  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Chang should be top.

    I'd have Park 3rd, then Moon.
     
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  9. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I liked Sang Hyun Kim. tall rangy fighter. Beat Mansurgurin & Arredondo. Lost belt to Mamby. Didn't have enough power to keep Pryor off of him. decent fighter though.
    If groomed properly Deuk Koo Kim could have been a solid Chsmpion...
     
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  10. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Yeah, he had good glove defence/parrying, blocking skills.bit of a poor version of Winky Wright/jim watt without the top jab or durability.Would fit in well enough with any junior Welter of the time not named Pryor or Arguello though.
     
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  11. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Moon impressed me most.....very fun to watch, excellent stamina, very agressive, I really like him....
     
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  12. Confucius

    Confucius Active Member Full Member

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    The list has some howlers, but it is not that bad overall, considering it comes from a publication that does not really know much about Asian boxing.

    Also, this list--and some of your comments--demonstrates why you actually need to watch some fights (and know some of the background) and not just go by won-loss record (e.g. your Chul-ho Kim comments).

    This is not a pick'em choice. If you asked Korean domestic experts, literally every one of them would tell you Chang was much better. Heck, even Yuh thinks Chang was much better.

    He lost to Khaosai's brother.

    Moon is one case where the "impressive resume" is a bit deceiving. His record is indeed nice (especially considering his very late pro entry), but I have hard time ranking a face-first brawler this high.

    Given his lack of speed and conventional boxing skills, I am still shocked that he was a world amateur champion (and he shouldn't have even represented Korea, as he should've lost all those national qualifiers to Huh Young-mo).

    He has two noteworthy wins. The first win over Orono was a total fluke, as he was getting completely out-classed and luckily landed a body blow on the exact spot that Orono had a serious stomach operation on (which he came back from too soon). He was also arguably gifted with a hometown decision v. Watanabe.

    Subtract these two "wins," Kim may even deserve a top 50 listing, much less top 4.

    Aside from his stamina (which is noteworthy for a Korean fighter, since they all seem to go slack once they become world champions), there was nothing exceptional about Kim's game.

    He should be #2. Talent-wise he and Chang are head-and-shoulders above the rest.

    Baek was arguably physically more wasted than Park when they fought; besides, Park is a naturally bigger guy.

    The only reason Park ever became a world titlist is because of the creation of IBF (IBF in its inception had no prestige, and a lot of mediocre Korean fighters got to fight for the championship).

    I LOL-ed.
     
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  13. Confucius

    Confucius Active Member Full Member

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    The very definition of mediocrity.

    But surprised that a non-Korean (which I assume you are) would even mention him.
     
    Confucius, Jul 18, 2013
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