Ring Magazine's P4p List: Donaire debuts at 8th; Cotto re-enters at 7th

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i had williams ahead of cotto...the dawson that fought johnson would lose 9 rounds to hopkins
     
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  2. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is irrelevant. Dawson and Williams and Vic have done more than Cotto
     
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  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    we may have different criteria...yours is 100% resume...mine is 50% accomplishment and 50% overall ability
     
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  4. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Has cotto accomplished more than Vic Dawson or williams?

    And he for damn sure doesnt have more ability then the three.
     
    Symphenyceo, May 5, 2009
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  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    do not throw williams in the discussion..i believe the ring mag is a sh!t for not having williams there.

    whats the ability of a fighter that lost 5 rounds to glen johnson...darchinyan has a weak chin. even featherfisted gorrez knock him down:deal
     
    asero, May 5, 2009
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  6. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah he lost 5 rds to Johnson. So what? Is Johnson a bum or something? he also Beat ademak and shut out tarver
     
    Symphenyceo, May 5, 2009
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  7. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i had dawson at 9...that's fair...cotto is in almost every panel's top 10 p4p
     
    asero, May 5, 2009
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  8. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats not enought.
     
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  9. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robbery ****, roberry your hate yes.
     
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  10. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Simply this guy is a cotto hater, just because he whip both his man Judah and Mallignaggi ass, and in a few months Clottey too.
     
    Chiko_Tech, May 5, 2009
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  11. Monstar

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    AHAHAH! great! just like i called it, only they still got Caballero and no Lopez

    but still, great ****!, my 2nd and 3rd fav. fighters finnally gettin some respect in this *****

    but uhh..Asero, whats your top 10 look like?
     
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  12. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    my list...

    haye would be 3rd if he KO's wlad
     
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  13. asero

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    ring reason for putting calderon out of their list is his inactivity and reluctance to fight superior opposition...
     
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  14. Daft P

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    I still don't see what Cotto has done to get back to top10. He is close, obviously, but he needs to beat Clottey to get back. The last thing I rembember about him is a crashed face. And according to presumption of innocence, unless the contrary is proven, you cannot presume that Margarito cheated. So my list:

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Floyd Mayweather
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Bernard Hopkins
    5. Paul Williams
    6. Shane Mosley
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Ivan Calderon
    9. Nonito Donaire
    10. Vic Darchinyan

    Winner of Cotto-Clottey enters soon. Probably also Klitschko-Haye winner. Around top 15 the following boxers :Juanma, Dawson, Chris John, Cotto, Margarito, etc. I put out Israel Vasquez because he is inactive and doesn't have any scheduled fight.
     
    Daft P, May 5, 2009
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  15. PH|LLA

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    let me now put this debate to rest...

    you can pound on your chest
    and scream with unrest
    but you must confess
    that my list is the best!

    1. Pacman
    2. JMM
    3. Hopkins
    4. Shane
    5. Cotto
    6. Vitali Klitscko
    7. Darchinyan
    8. Chad Dawson
    9. Chris John
    10. Nonito Donaire
    11. Paul Williams
    12. Mikkel Kessler
    13. JuanMa Lopez
    14. Kelly Pavlik
    15. Ricky Hatton
    16. Arthur Abraham
    17. Celestino Caballero
    18. David Haye
    19. Jorge Linares
    20. Lucian Bute
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    Some fighters that I considered but did not make top 20 : Joshua Clottey, Wlad Klitscko, Daniel Santos, Tim Bradley, Nate Campbell, Edwin Valero, Carl Froch, Calderon. And a few fighters that I simply don't know enough about like for example Sergei Dzinziruk who has a solid record but I've only seen his fight against Konecny and wasn't impressed.
     
    PH|LLA, May 5, 2009
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