Ring Magazine's To be the Best Top 100 Ranking

it definitely raised a few eyebrows
(This list not the gay playboy - Lol)

 

Why? PBF schooled Pac and schooled Canelo and had the better career and didn't lose to no hopers and need 4 fights with the likes of JMM.

 

JMM is a certified ATG and may possibly be the best counterpuncher in history or at the vet worst Top 5. Floyd pulled JMM up 2 weight classes and ignored the 144 catchweight. So in common opponents, Pac is 4-1 with Floyd.

But I don't know why you make these comparisons because Pac blew away Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, and had Mosley straight up running for survival.

And Pac would have straight up murked Maidana, Ortiz, Guerrero, and Berto.

Then you add in illegal IV fluids, super late fight announcements (cycling), ultra low T/E ratios, cherrypicking (stop defending this as Floyd himself has said numerous times he picked and chose who and when he fought), etc..

Pac is 5X lineal champion, champion in 4 separate decades, oldest welterweight champion, 8 division champion, and fought much bigger guys for the last 10 years of his career.

 

That list is dog toss

 

Can we please have a moment of silence for those who still refer to Floyd Mayweather as PBF in 2021.

Thanks.

 

Yes JMM is an ATG not an elite ATG but he's an ATG. A guy who you want to say is the GOAT should not need 4 fights with a guy on that level to beat him clearly and over the course of 4 fights Pac never was able to figure how not to get by that right hand finally getting KTFO by it. That says alot for a so called GOAT. He also had no business losing to a badly faded Erik Morales that is the type of fighter a so called GOAT beats. You also have no business getting schooled by the best fighter of the era in PBF because he was shot when he did it. You waited out PBF turned him down when both of you were prime and then got completely undressed by him when you finally fought. That's not GOAT level stuff, I could go on and on with other mis-steps. Pac is an elite ATG but he's not the best fighter of his own era and not greater than PBF, he has too many loses and bad loses at that. You want to say Pac destroys Maidana Berto and Ortiz well PBF doesn't lose to Erik Morales MAB Diaz Margo and a host of others and Canelo is better than anyone Pac beat so there.

 

Pac has losses vs mediocre fighters like Bradley and Horn on his resume. Not to mention getting KTFO by a 39 year old JMM. Floyd would never lose to those kinds of fighters.

 

Here is more on that formula
Break down * For the Extra Nerdy of Us on Here *

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SCORING DETAILS

Scoring for total points and peak points relied on a base 11-point scale (i.e. a champion and the top 10 contenders).
A win over the champion of one’s weight class, in a title or non-title fight, was worth 11 points, a No. 1 contender was worth 10, etc.
Losses worked in reverse. A loss to the champion was a one-point deduction sliding to 11 for a loss to the No. 10 contender.

Losses to unranked opponents drew a universal 12-point deduction. Draws against ranked opponents were worth half a win; draws against unranked opponents were a six-point deduction.

Fighters were then given a ranking in each scoring category: overall total, peak score (the highest point their points for wins and losses reached), and ranked wins.

Wins and losses to opponents in higher and lower divisions were included. A formula based on body weight percentage differences between divisions of ranked fighters, rather than scale weights of the fighters, was applied.

For instance, if a No. 2-ranked bantamweight defeated the No. 2-ranked featherweight, 126 was divided by 118 and then multiplied by standard win/loss points, making the win worth 9.61 points to the bantamweight and the loss a deduction of 3.2 points for the featherweight. If the featherweight won, 118 would be divided by 126 with the win worth 8.42 points for the featherweight and the loss meaning a deduction of 2.81 points for the bantamweight.
The exception was fighters moving up to face heavyweights. There is no specific heavyweight ceiling so the formula divides the weight limit of the smaller fighter’s division against the actual weight of the heavyweight.

Everyone who finished in the top 100 of preliminary research for those three categories was moved into a final pool of what came out to 150 fighters. Win total ties were broken based on peak score. Their rankings in each category were then averaged into a final score.
To best display the range of data, they were then divided into four groups to settle on the final 100.

Group one: anyone who finished in the top 100 of all three scoring categories or whose scoring average was higher than those who did.
(1-67).

Group two was anyone else who finished in the top 100 for peak score and ranked wins but not overall points (68-72).

Group three was derived from fighters who scored in the top 75 of any of the three scoring categories or whose final scoring average was higher than what would otherwise be the bottom ten of the top 100 (73-100).

The final average score was used to order the fighters in each group for those who made the top 100.

----------------------------------------------END of Excerpt on Scoring Formula from Top 100 Article-

 

Thats a cluster****. Only an idiot would come up with that ****.

With that said i dont care about lists from so called experts... i remember a while ago ESPN made a list of the best athletes ever voted by a panel of what they refer to as "experts" and the final top ten list had two golfers, one broad and last but not least it had a horse...since then i stopped giving importance to or giving a **** about any list.

 

Cliff Rold made the list and he's certainly not an idiot.

 

I applaud them for taking that resource and making something new from it. We can argue over the results, but this is an interesting use of the data they've accumulated over the years and may give some insights into the records, a view on the quality of opponents faced, rather than simply relying on the bare numbers.

 

OMG! WTF!

 

That is funny as hell.