ring`s website denies jmm`s lack of speed

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  1. AbbasKhan6428

    AbbasKhan6428 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    in think jmm's speed is a problem but its not good business to admit that. jmm is an underdog and if they admitted there was a problem the business with the bookies will go down as no-one will take a risk in bettin on jmm. also there wont be any hype either.

    conclusion jmm is having problems but they may have been exaggerated and now there (ring mag) covering it up.
     
  2. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Nacho is talking out of both sides of his mouth, seems like there is division in the camp.
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    I googled a little and couldn't find a source for these "Marquez lacks speed" comments other than Philboxing which is totally unreliable
     
  4. Oscar de la Roa

    Oscar de la Roa I'm THE lightweight champ Full Member

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    if you know a little spanish, yesterday i saw a very reliable one in notifight dot com which is like a cousin of fnews
     
  5. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is so sad

    it was mission impossible as it already was

    if dinamita has no speed, the match will be a farce, better of calling it off
     
  6. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    Jesus give the guy a chance. I think he has earned it.:bbb
     
  7. DanielSt

    DanielSt 46-0-0 Full Member

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    Ring is owned by GBP, who promotes this mismatch, so it cant be trusted.
     
  8. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    earned what?

    a beating from a far bigger guy?
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    radab my brother, you have fallen off the wagon.

    It is Phil from Philboxing who wrote an article quoting Beristein as saying that JMM lacked speed with bulking up......

    ....bro, its these journalists jobs to create controversy and concerns and get people to click on their link.....

    First off, we all knew that JMM had to bulk up to fight at Welter......logically he's not going to be as fast at Welter than he was at featherweigtht.
    ......Mayweather himself is not nearly as fast today than he was at his 130 lbs days.....

    For just about every elite boxer's training regimen, the last phase of their preparation for a fight is their speed regimen. Working on timing and speed.

    What surely happened is that someone heard Nacho stating that Marquez was bigger and stronger, but that now the concern all the way to fight time is to make sure Marquez comes through properly with his speed training regimen, which will be one of the last phases or his training.

    Any trainer would be somewhat antsy and conscious worried to make certain his fighter got there considering that he's bulked up.
    But I am absolutely certain, that neither Beristein or JMM are panicked that they are not going to get to the speed point that they wish.

    Concern, maybe, but panicked, absolutely not.

    I have no reason to believe that a fighter and trainer of the proffesionalism of JMM and Beristain, will do everything in their power to be 100% ready on fightnight.

    Remember now, JMM and Beristain have been together from day one, and they know how to work with eachother better than most fighter/trainers.


    Bro, you annointed yourself JMM's biggest fan on this board. You have preached your love for Marquez the fighter.

    If you dont wisen up my friend, I'm fully prepared to knock you off that mantle.

    I'm a Juan Manuel Marquez fan. We dont need fear and pessimism at this point in time nearing the fight.

    What we need here now is optimism and trust in both JMM and Nacho Beristain's proffesionalism and know how.
    I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that when Juan Manuel Marquez walks up the ring ropes and enters the ring on September 19th against Floyd Mayweather, he will be primed, ready and focused for only one thing...............
    .......WIN!!!





    JMM SHOCK THE WORLD!!!
     
  10. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    well you are definetely right about that.
     
  11. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    C'mon now... There's no need to even discuss this. We knew 2 years ago like we know now Marquez is much slower these days, even at his optimal weight. He wasn't going to get faster moving up. :cool:
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    that's what i'm worrying about. at lower weights, jmm has underrated speed. but bulking up to 144, i don't know if he would retain it.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    ahaha :D
     
  14. jjax

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    I really thoguht he looked bad in yesterday 24/7. Either he was loading up into every punch or he was just seriously slowed down. I fear it's the latter. He looked slower in virtually every aspect, and spent too much time falling towards the ropes.

    This is looking really bad. I ignored my guy reaction after watching Jones look terrible in his pre-Zag workouts and Hatton looking terrible in his pre-Pac workouts, this time I can't. I'm still putting a few bucks on Marquez to win for the hell of it, but I give him less than a 10% chance now. He needs a KO punch to the body, and it's more likely he gets shredded to bits in the process. His head movement reflexes looked slow too, there's no way he can dodge

    If Marquez wins, it's going to be an amazing victory like Margarito-Cotto, where he takes a brutal beating but somehow stays on his feet long enough to catch him with a few rib-breaking body shots. Even if he wins, this is surely Marquez's last hurrah, either he takes a terrible beating in a loss or a miracle win, or loses a decision after being hesitant.

    I'm very happy he got his big payday here, but his time as an elite fighter is seriously running out.