Rios is a more polished, harder hitting version of Maidana.

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  1. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First of all, try using logic for once.

    It was Maidana that went to Rios' coach, not the other way around. Maidana was a raw slugger out of Argentina with a tremendous learning curve.

    In the first Mayweather fight, the guy was throwing, telegraphed, crooked, wide punches.

    He's so slow, that he couldn't throw anything that resembled a synchronic combination.

    Rios on the other hand utilized the lunging uppercut that Margarito liked to use, and he threw hard compact combinations when he had his opponent on the ropes.

    I was actually concerned for Pac's welfare, despite his tremendous speed and footwork, due to Rios' overall power, size, and strength.

    That was a harder fight than people give Pacquaio credit for.

    Dare I say, that same Rios that showed up to fight Mayweather in the first Maidana fight, it could have been a different story.

    The morale of the story...

    People are only dissing Rios because they hate Pacquaio, so they hate anyone associated with Pacquaio.

    If it were Rios that fought Mayweather instead of Maidana, it would be Rios that was a killer and Maidana that is seen as he is.

    Either way, when Pacquaio is in that ring, he is going to put an extraordinary beating on Mayweather.

    They are going to call it a beating for the ages.

    Be prepared...

    FLOYD HAS NO WAY OUT!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lks9B52lyk
     
  2. lepinthehood

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    His crooked, wide, unorthodox, high arced punches worked very well against mayweather - straight punches he usually defends easily.
     
  3. kirk

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    Not really that similar, imo.
     
  4. kirk

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    You are overrating Rios quite a bit, imo.
     
  5. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's ridiculous. A wide punch is telegraphed and has less impact than a short punch.

    It's all about angles. If a punch isn't landing, you step around your opponent until you find an angle.

    I wonder who's a master at this.

    Oh, that's right Pacquaio.

    He's going to put a beating on Mayweather. But when is the last time Mayweather fought a guy that attempted to fight him soley on the inside, that Mayweather wasn't strong enough to control?

    Hatton???

    Cotto's strategy definitely falls in this category and he was doing a great job until of course, he characteristically faded in the second half of the fight, like he always does.

    I guess, I'm just talking up a tree though because until the fight gets signed, all this is meaningless.
     
  6. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You think Maidana is more skilled on the inside than Rios?

    You think Maidana's punching technique is better than Rios' punching technique?
     
  7. kirk

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    There are physical levels to boxing that supersede techical ability. There are fighters that suit certain styles more then they would suit a more technical style, and saying that one fighter is better than the other because hes more refined just doesnt always work in boxing.

    But, for the record, im not necessarily saying maidana would beat Rios, rios has certain attributes that would be bad news for maidana.

    I just think you're overrating Rios regardless, and that matchups and 'who is better' doesnt always come down to whose more polished.
     
  8. CST80

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    Maidana is wild and unorthodox but still limited and I don't think he's improved that much, he's being vastly overrated by Floyd and Broner fans, I agree Rios is slightly better all around than Chino.
     
  9. TJ Max

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    It's hard for me to agree with you that looping, crooked shots have more impact on them and are more difficult to see than short punches.

    I mean, Maidana doesn't even have an arc on his punches.

    They literally come in an L shape.

    I can't think of any great fighter in the history of the sport that had bad punching technique. Can you???

    I mean, I understand that there are certain styles that suit certain physical attributes, depending on the opponent, but as far as punching technique is concerned?

    If you can find some examples of fighters that had terrible punching technique, but managed to be great, I would be more inclined to agree with you.

    I don't buy this, "wide, looping, less impactful, and telegraphed punches are the only ones that can get to Mayweather."

    Mayweather is undoubtedly hard to hit, but you can't hurt him with garbage punches. It's all about angles. If you can't hit him at a certain angle, change the angle, don't alter the punch to make it have worse technique.

    Look at GGG. He does this pretty consistently. He even uses a tactic rarely seen in boxing today. He'll switch to southpaw to unleash an offensive attack on a retreating fighter. Not switching, inexplicably like so many fighters do today, but with purpose.

    Pacquaio on the other hand, will step to the side and land punches and he is incredibly accurate. He is a master at finding punching angles.
     
  10. buckdacious

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    cant compare them at all
     
  11. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can't compare two fighters with the same trainer in the same division, with the same basic strategy?
     
  12. Swollen Liver

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    Oh common...as much as I hate Floyd, this is a trolling thread. How can you pretend he is better than Maidana when he got owned by Richard Abril?
     
  13. TJ Max

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    Maidana got completely handled by Alexander, I mean, he lost every single round.

    Alexander did this the same way Abril did this to Rios, except Rios actually had an argument for winning and in fact did win that fight officially.

    So, your argument totally and completely fails.
     
  14. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    its just a dumb comparsion. I wouldnt say Rios is more polished at all. Honstely i think the dude sucks bad. Maidana isnt that great either but has a wayyyy better jab then Rios and his punches come from award postions compared to seeing Rios shots from plain few.

    I would just say there different fighters, nothing comparable to me
     
  15. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    How dare you try to compare Abril to Alexander????

    yeah this is a troll thread after that commenet