RJJ, Floyd or Marciano?

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  1. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Whose achievements, in order, are the greatest?

    RJJ went from a MW to being HW champ (106 years it hadn't been done in)

    Floyd went 49-0 across the 90's, 00's & 10's. Beat like 18 champions.

    Marciano went 49-0 at HW.
     
  2. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    1) Floyd 2) Roy 3) Rocky
     
  3. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roy Jones Jr. wasn't hw champ. He was a beltholder (read: contender). Lennox Lewis was champ.

    Great comparison though. The resumes of all three have big holes. Difference is that Marciano fought the best available to him. Neither Floyd nor Jones did that. Floyd ultimately fought them but mostly when it was very favourable to him. Jones has the best win (Toney) amongst them.

    IMO Floyd clearly outranks the other two due to the depth of his resume (in comparison to theirs) and achievements (49-0, establishing him as the champ in more than one division, number of title fights won and so on).
    Jones was a beltholder in all of his divisions but could not establish himself as the champ anywhere. He lacks in achievments. He has three great wins and some decent bolstering but not a truly deep resume. Still, in a p4p sense I think he should be above Marciano.
    Rocky IMO has the most top wins but still the thinnest resume, great achievements but lacks in longevity. Still fairly close to Roy.
     
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  4. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano won Fight of the Year three times while RJJ and Floyd haven't ever, and Fighter of the Year three time while RJJ has one and Money two.

    Make of that what you will I just felt like OP brought more context to Floyd in Roy's achievements than Marciano's.
     
  5. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Winning fight of the year is irrelevant. Micky ward won that 3 times, doenst make him an ATG.
    Roy won foghter of the DECADE.
    Mayweather certainly deserves to atleast share that distinction with Manny Pacquiao.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    1) Floyd
    2) Jones
    3) Marciano
     
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  7. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    This
     
  8. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    And I love all three so no bias
     
  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    1) RJJ



    2) FMJ



    3) Marciano
     
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  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Marciano


    Jones










    Floyd
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Clearly this.
     
  13. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    1) Marciano
    2) RJJ


    3) Floyd
     
  14. PernellSweetPea

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  15. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: Mmm,kay? I'm a little confused.

    Who's to say what makes an accolade braggable or not? Was my point to add ATG worthy brags? Is that what you got out of context is it? Then why are you typing caps at me?

    Since when do accolades make the boxer and not the other way around? Marciano got his FOTY's off Walcott, LaStarza, and Charles....are you sure you want to go to bat for this idea that those fights alone don't have their own legacies? The Suzie Q is a legacy by itself, the shuffles, rope-a-dope, and the come from behind you better win this round or you lose KO? I'd say you need to take a good ****in' look at the idea that even Manny Pacquiao's FOTY is equal. Those FOTY's are special, they are individually a legacy all their own. The three of them is a ****in' pattern, show some goddamn respect to boxing history even if Marciano don't make yer ***** wet. Without those fights are you even sure Ali fights like Ali?

    When you start blindly calling boxers good or bad based on accolade that's the sort of slippery slope that gets champions whose technical prowess is limited to amatuer techniques and best wins are old, out of shape, undersized, or green being rated amongst guys whose technical prowess was so high they invented new technique and adaptations and best wins are so good they themselves are considered ATGs.