RJJ Haters Take this!

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  1. tylerrcurtis

    tylerrcurtis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In the five-year period of what could be considered his prime, from 1994 through 1999, Jones went 16-1 with the only loss coming via a dubious disqualification that he avenged by winning with a first-round knockout in the rematch.

    In that span, he defeated nine current or former world champions and three men who either already are in the International Boxing Hall of Fame or will be when they become eligible

    James Toney, who is a first-ballot Hall of Famer the minute he’s eligible, was the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world when Jones met him at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Nov. 18, 1994. Jones won 30 of the 36 scored rounds in a stunning display of boxing ability.
    Jones met Mike McCallum, who was inducted into the Hall and is now a first-rate trainer residing in Las Vegas, in Tampa, Fla., on Nov. 22, 1996, for the interim WBC light heavyweight title. Jones won every round on all three judges’ scorecards, including one round in which he dominated so much all three scored it 10-8.

    And then on April 25, 1998, Jones stopped Virgil Hill with a pulverizing shot to the ribs, a knockout so fierce it is still shown on highlight reels of the game’s best knockouts. Jones had won the first three rounds of that bout before knocking Hill out in the fourth.

    So against three future Hall of Famers, Jones went 3-0 and won 70 of 76 rounds. He’s winning 92.1 percent of his rounds against Hall of Fame fighters.

    In 1993, Jones routed Bernard Hopkins, another future Hall of Famer, winning 24 of 36 scored rounds from him despite fighting with a broken hand.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=ArZJ.NOxQYSwS9SMXFGe35KaxLYF?slug=ki-rjj110408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    how can anyone call him a ducker or say he took weak fights?
     
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  2. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    Something Calzaghe wouldn't have been able to accomplish
     
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  3. tylerrcurtis

    tylerrcurtis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    excatly plus RJJ moved up from 175 in 2003 and became the first ex-middleweight champion in 106 years, since Bob Fitzsimmons, to win a version of the heavyweight belt.

    cals could never EVER DO THAT
     
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  4. imp4pdabest

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    Your points are exactly why I say this fight can never prove who wouldve won when these 2 were in their primes. Calzaghe is nothing close to Roy, he's just basing his legacy off of two SHOT hall of famers
     
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  5. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins isn't shot by any means and his destruction of Pavlik shows that he is still a top fighter. Jones is definitely shot though and anything other than a dominant performance from Calzaghe will look pretty average.
     
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  6. imp4pdabest

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    What?:patsch :rofl :rofl :rofl

    Are you aware that by making that statement, you're basically saying he's basically in his prime? Just because he schooled Pavlik doesnt mean he isn'y past his prime, and trust me, he's way past his prime. This has to be the funniest statement I've heard today.
     
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  7. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    "Past his prime" and "being shot" are two totally different things mate.
     
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  8. imp4pdabest

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    I know. And Hopkins is both. Apparently if he's SHOT, he's past his prime. In the other thread on a scale of 1-9 ranking how shot Hopkins is, I voted a 5.
     
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  9. Barber-ian

    Barber-ian Active Member Full Member

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    I hard to believe anyone thinks the outcome of the 2008 Calz RJJ/Hop fights determine the greater fighter. All it proves is who is better NOW. That's all they can prove, and that's plenty.
     
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  10. imp4pdabest

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    Even Roy & Calzaghe have been caught saying "this fight is gonna prove who wouldv'e won back 6-7 years ago when we first wanted to fight eachother."

    I've read an article talking about this fight will prove who would've won back then. Lots of dumb posters are saying the same thing. I know if Calzaghe wins all his fans are gonna say its true.
     
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  11. Barber-ian

    Barber-ian Active Member Full Member

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    Well, he sure did a great impression of a sharp, focused fighter in his performance against Pav!
     
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  12. imp4pdabest

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    True, but that doesnt mean hes in his prime or not shot. He was able to beat Pavlik because Pavlik is like a robot to him
     
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  13. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    You're playing with words here, mate.

    Calzaghe is also past his prime. Can you say he is shot? NO!

    A fighter can be past his prime, but still on a pretty good level. Like Hopkins. Now, that has nothing to do with the term "shot". Shot means the fighter has lost about 90% of his "in prime" attributes. Calzaghe and Hopkins haven't lost that much.

    PS: I know we don't really disagree, I just wanted to point out the difference between the terms. :D
     
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  14. magnificentdave

    magnificentdave Constant Reminder Full Member

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    If Hopkins were 5 on a scale of his best to the worst a boxer can be then he would not be able to beat any of the title holders at middleweight super middle or light heavy . . .
     
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  15. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    it doen't matter jones will be ko'd com 11/08/08
     
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