I was listening to ESPN radio yesterday and they had Bert Suger on and he stated that all time P4P he would put Roy Jones in the 90's ! He stated that fighters like Hearns p4p shoud be rated higher than him ..If he were to rate Mayweather all time he'd have him in the 80's above Roy ! Brian Kenny went off on him ..Who else agrees on RJJ's P4P placement all time ?
I don't agree with Bert Sugar (and I'm putting this nicely). Roy in the 90s? Give me a ****ing break! The guy was a dominant force who barely lost ROUNDS in 4 weight classes. I have him in my top 25 of all time. Head to head, he's top 10 at least. Bert Sugar is a middle-of-the-line historian. He is far too biased towards old fighters from his youth and before his time. He's a great story teller who knows millions of useless facts, but as far as analyzing fights and ranking fighters go, there are MANY posters on here who are miles above him. The fact that he has Tony Zale, Ad Wolgast, and Jimmy Barry above Roy Jones says it all. It's 2008 Bert, wake up and look at things OBJECTIVELY!
every time i listen to bert suger i think to myelf "WTF is he talking about"?...he over rates old fighters from his era and gives little credit to fighters of today....the guy is becoming a joke because he is bias
i thought i was the only one who noticed all the useless stuff he talks about when he is interviewed....when they do that ringside show on espn he sounds like he knows **** all about anything
Anyone who puts him lower than 30 doesn't know boxing. I don't care what your name is. Lower than 30, you don't know the game. Top 15 is reasonable under some criteria. I'd have him at about 25, I think.
he is ****ing senial ... on the countdown to jones trindad he was saying that every boxing fan is going to watch this fight because its goona be a tough competetive fight.... i was like WTF tito will be knocked out inlike 4 rounds... RJJ is easily top 25.. he had crazy crazy speed power in each hand movement that was so fast... ahh an people wonder why everyone says boxing is dying
Yeah, it's very laughable. They've got it on DVD now too. He ranks Frazier and Holmes below Charles and Tunney:-( And there is no mention of Lewis or Holyfield.
Have you seen our friends 'Janitor's' list? He's got Langford above Holyfield, Holmes, Tyson & Foreman at HW, not P4P, Heavyweight.:yep