RJJ Place in History

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  1. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    After watching this video, and seeing what Larry Merchant and Burt Sugar has to say about Roy Jones. It just made me curious about what my fellow ESB members think. Do you guys agree with Jones, or Larry and Bert. Or think otherwise, all comments are welcome
     
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  2. jimmy1991

    jimmy1991 Active Member Full Member

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    hell yes he is one of the greats
     
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  3. brut_edge

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    P4P greatest of all time
     
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  4. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Achievements: Top 30-50

    Head to head: Top 5
     
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  5. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Oh and what Larry was saying is BS about how all the great fighters have to move up in weight to prove their greatness.

    Hagler never moved up and is he 'not great'? I don't think so.
    Also by that time, Roy had already moved up three weight classes (160-168-175)
     
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  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    4 technically....Jones started at 154.
     
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  7. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    His resume doesn't do him justice. There are inferior fighters who belong ahead of him simply because of better competition. You can argue how much of that actually was Roy's fault.

    Head to head, there's no one in history I'd favor over him at 168 pounds.
     
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  8. errsta

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    In retrospect - and Roy's prime wasn't that long ago - Roy has been judged too harshly.

    In this clip, Holmes said it best. Surprisingly, I didn't hear Holmes curse once.

    Anyhow, people tend to forget that Jones moved up to LHW, was outsized at this weight and dominated. With the exception of DM, he fought everyone how was anyone at LHW during his era. That has to count for something.
     
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  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Proof?
     
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  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nope.
     
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  11. angelos

    angelos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Top 3
     
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  12. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the thing that i dont like about rjj is that his resume (good bec. of toney, hopkins), never measured up to his talent (god like). being backed by hbo he could have pushed for any fight out there.
     
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  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    RJJ top10 ATG for me one of the best ever no ****ing doubt. Like he said the guy beat Hopkins and James Toney, and Virgill Hill EASY. Dominated everyone, even Ruiz at Heavyweight.

    Forget about the Tarver and Johnson fights that not the same man in there.

    RJJ during his career was leagues ahead of where FMJ is today. Can you imagine a prime RJJ having a close fight with someone on the same level as Castillo? Don't get me wrong Castillo was an elite fighter but Jones ate elite fighters for breakfast.
     
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  14. Florida boy

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    Everyones criteria is different, talent wise, i think he was the best we will ever see, resume wise, he was hurt by fighting in a weak era.
     
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  15. Florida boy

    Florida boy Bodacious Full Member

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    Not to mention he beat Tarver the first fight in what was the last little bit of his prime.
     
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