RJJ Place in History

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I personally think RJJ's resume is absolutely amazing. The only guy he shuld've fought but didn't is DM
     
  2. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    RJJ is definitely one of the top ten all time great fighters. Althought I was thrilled with Toney's fights with jirov and Holyfield in 2003, I thought Jones was robbed when not given recognition as fighter of the year 2003. I thought his capture of the WBA heavyweight championship from John Ruiz followed by his return to light heavyweight to reclaim the light-heavyweight championship from the most dangerous fighter in the division warranted recognition over Toney's accomplishments. Toney's single title winning effort and victory over a fighter that Ruiz defeated to claim his title rank below Jones' efforts that year - by virtue of the fact that Ruiz came out of the Holyfield series of bouts with the WBA championship belt.
     
  3. ssabripo

    ssabripo Active Member Full Member

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    Roy Jones is without a doubt a top 10 ATG. PERIOD!

    He handedly beat two fellow top lb4lb fighters, he cleaned house at LW, won at 160, 168, 175, and HW, he lost perhaps a total of 8 rounds in the entire 90's, etc, etc.

    Not having a true nemesis didn't help, and fighting way past his prime didn't help either.

    The Roy I see now is MJ #45 in a wizards uniform.....the Roy I saw live and trhoughout the 90's and early 00's was MJ#23 from the Chicago bulls.
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's generally considered Jones best weight. He fought 12 times there with 10 KO's and beat an ATG. H2H, most consider this version of Jones on of the 3-5 best fighters in any weight class ever. 168 Jones, 147 SRR, 190 Holyfield, and a few others.....you could bet the farm that they would win against nearly anyone at those weights.
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with the first part....his resume is underrated, it's a good resume. Compared to his talent, it's mediocre.

    However, not sure he didn't push for fights, since both he and HBO claim to have made the push and simply failed. Not sure who to believe there.
     
  6. usc2005

    usc2005 "THE BEST" Full Member

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    one of the best and most exciting all time!!:good
     
  7. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

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    In his prime, he was simply the best boxer I have seen between 1994 and 2000 fight. He was simply an outstanding natural athlete and he won every fight he ever had.

    Career wise, his big mistake was moving up to heavyweight and then moving back down again in his next fight so soon after.

    He should have fought another heavweight fight after Riz, defending the title, then taken a year out and then moved back down to light heavyweight.

    He made one bad decision in his career, but he was unbelievably great in his prime. He is my favourite boxer of all time.

    Roy Jones you are the best I have ever seen.:deal
     
  8. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    I made this comparison recently and drew a lot of wide-eyed stares from friends. I live in the heart of college basketball territory, and I told some friends that, at 168, Jones achieved the same level of dominance as Michael Jordan, which to them was unfathomable.

    Now, granted, he didn't have the longevity because he didn't stay there, and he didn't get pushed the way Jordan did -- I'd tip MJ for his ability to reinvent himself, which Roy was unable to do -- but for the almost supernatural combination of natural abilities, I think he deserves to be part of that same conversation with Jordan, Tiger, Federer, et al.
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's a valid comparison. Jones at 168 is as close to unbeatable as you can get in this sport IMO. Jordan reinvented himself when his immense physical gifts diminished....RJJ did not.
     
  10. Ashy Knucks

    Ashy Knucks Prize Fighter Full Member

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    RJJ is my favorite fighter ever.. Top 3 ATG..
     
  11. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I beleive that Roy Jones Jr. is the most athleticthly gifted boxer of all time and while there are no sure things in boxing he could beat anyone from 160-200 lbs.
     
  12. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    :patsch oh please
     
  13. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    It's no secret that he failed a drugs test following the Hall fight. (In fact both fighters failed).
     
  14. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    I'd have him a little higher in achievements and a little lower head-to-head.
     
  15. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Prime Roy would have pot-shotted Calzaghe to a boring decision victory.