RJJ record V FMJ record

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  1. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    No way in hell!! Outside of Oscar, Hatton, and Corrales please tell me a fighter on Floyd's record that can compare to Lou De Valle, Hill, and Ruiz?
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Absolutely not. Floyd has no wins comparable to a prime Hopkins or Toney. Ruiz, as boring as he was, was a top 10 heavyweight (maybe even higher?) and that was a historic win. The Corrales win, among Floyd's best, is comparable to the Tarver win, probably surpasses it, but doesn't come close to the Hopkins or Toney wins. Neither do the DLH or Castillo or Hatton wins.
     
  3. GoldSugar

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    of course Toney was an ATG. whoever says different is full of ****.
     
  4. LikeFatherNSon

    LikeFatherNSon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree on Toney but I think a win over Corrales matches the win over Hopkins. Though solid, Hopkins was not the fighter he would become a couple years later and was nowhere near considered "elite" at the time Jones fought him. Corrales, on the other hand, was a top five pound for pounder. The idea that it was comparable to beating Tarver is ludicrous. And this is coming from someone who thinks Roy has the better resume.
     
  5. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins was still considered green back then and was no where peak in his potential.

    James Toney was a great win but he was spent on the scales. Same can be said about Corrales. Ruiz is an average heavy weight that was picked on purpose so Jones can make history. How doesn't Floyd tower over Jones in resume?

    Floyd's list of big names:
    Hernadaz, Corrales, Castillo 2x, Gatti, Judah, Oscar, Hatton, JMM, Mosley, Ortiz and Cotto.

    Jones's List of big names:
    Bhop, James Toney, Vinny, Griffin, Woods, Ruiz, Trinidad, Joe, Tarver, Johnson.
    (I put Bhop on here even though he hasn't reach his potential)

    Floyd's 11 vs Jones 11. You can easily see how Floyd's opponents outshines Jones.

    Note* Jones fought bhop on a vacant title. Floyd lifted his titles from the champ. Plus he never lost against elites while Jones have.

    I just list the known fighters and if i choose to go on Floyd has more solid opponents than Jones as well.
     
  6. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone that Floyd fought he has been the smaller guy except for JMM and Hatton.

    Jones was bigger than Bhop, Vinny, = to Griffin, Trinidad, Joe, and Johnson.

    This should a no brainer and ESB posters FAILED again.
     
  7. LikeFatherNSon

    LikeFatherNSon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How was he bigger than B-Hop when he began his career at junior middle?
     
  8. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His Frame is bigger. You forgot the 50/50 interview? Jones even admitted that he is bigger than hops.

    Height + Frame. Hops is taller but he is scrawny. Jones is 2 inches shorter but wider and bulkier.
     
  9. LikeFatherNSon

    LikeFatherNSon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His frame? Please elaborate.
     
  10. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pit those two guys side by side and use your eyes to see who is bigger. It is that simple really.

    Still doesn't understand just get Tyson to stand next to jones. They are around the same height and you can easily see whose frame is bigger.
     
  11. GoldSugar

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    youre clearly not familiar with jones at all since you fail to list McCallum, Gonzales and Hill........Paienza....woods? really? lol
     
  12. LikeFatherNSon

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    I saw the fight. Jones' "frame" wasn't bigger than Hopkins when they met.
     
  13. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not putting everyone with a record. I'm listing names. Like i said we can go down the list of solid fighters too.

    Floyd got Angel manfreddy, Carlos Hernadaz, Jesus Chavez, Carlos baldomir, corely, Mitchell
     
  14. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought he was. He was shorter but clearly bigger from pov.
     
  15. GoldSugar

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    But why would you list Pazienza instead of McCallum or Hill when they were clearly the better fighters?

    manfredy deserves to be in over Gatti for floyd. manfredy creamed gatti before floyd ever did