RJJ vs 1963 Cassius Clay

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Who wins and how

  1. Jones Jr KO/TKO

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  2. Ali KO/TKO

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  3. Jones Jr Decision

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  4. Ali Decision

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  5. Draw

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Before you laugh, remember, he struggled with Doug Jones and Henry Cooper in 63. Prime RJJ was an upgrade to both and a similar size.
     
  2. BCS8

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    I don't think Jones will do too well against any heavy that he doesn't have a distinct speed edge over. He may still be faster than Ali but not by much. On the other hand I don't think RJJ's power translates that well to heavyweight. I can't see Ali being too troubled by Jones in that department.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Agreed, I think Roy end's up getting kod
     
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  4. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Clay isn't cement footed John Ruiz.
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Personally, I think prime RJJ was as good as Jones and Cooper. As for size, D. Jones was a light heavyweight turned heavyweight and Cooper would be a light heavyweight if he fought in the 90s. In fact, he'd likely have been a RJJ title defense at light heavy. Same with Doug. So I don't think RJJ would be too small. I favor Ali, but in 63, he was still developing and wasn't just plodding over light heavyweight sized fighters.
     
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I think RJJ hit as hard as Doug Jones. Maybe even hard as Cooper
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Jones would be giving up the only advantage he’d ever have against a heavyweight.
     
  8. BCS8

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    I think Ali, who was a light hitter at heavyweight, would be a big puncher against Jones.