RJJ VS David Haye @ CW

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  1. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    who wins this fight. the RJJ that fought RUIZ lor the haye that beat ENZO MAC. who wins this battle ?
     
    tays001, Nov 20, 2008
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  2. magnificentdave

    magnificentdave Constant Reminder Full Member

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    Im fairly comfortable with the idea of RJJ beating Haye under those conditions, I'm not sure Haye could even last 12 rounds with a rugged rough-house style fighter like Ruiz . . .
     
    magnificentdave, Nov 20, 2008
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  3. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    uh did you even see the Jones/Ruiz fight? Ruiz was not allowed by the referee to use those roughhouse tactics. The fight was mostly in the middle of the ring and looked like a glorified sparring session.

    :lol: :rofl :patsch
     
    Rico Spadafora, Nov 20, 2008
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  4. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    It's a question of who catches who first. Jones was significantly slower already by the time he fought Ruiz, and I suspect Haye catches him and flattens him.
     
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  5. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :think
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    possibly but jones hurt ruis in that fight what if he catches Haye
     
    tays001, Nov 20, 2008
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  6. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye by decapitation.
     
    LiamE, Nov 20, 2008
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  7. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course Haye wouldn't last 12 with Ruiz. He'd stop Ruiz mid fight.
     
    LiamE, Nov 20, 2008
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  8. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    unsure on that one
     
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  9. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    wow seems like the majority take haye
     
    tays001, Nov 20, 2008
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  10. magnificentdave

    magnificentdave Constant Reminder Full Member

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    Uhhh yeah I did see it. What I saw was Ruiz ineffective when he tried to bull RJJ because he was too slow to catch RJJ. I also saw Haye knocked down by an uncoordinated, past him prime Barrett, flash knockdown or not . . . Counted or not.
     
    magnificentdave, Nov 20, 2008
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  11. Monticello

    Monticello Boxing Addict Full Member

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    id go with jones by comfortable decision.
     
    Monticello, Nov 20, 2008
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  12. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    dam i really didn't expect so mny writting jones off like that must be his punch and height advantage
     
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  13. rluevano

    rluevano El Gato De Culiacan Full Member

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    Dangerous fight for RJ for sure but I think the 195 version who fought Ruiz would probably KO Hayre or win a clear UD. I don't think Hayemaker would last 12 rds with a mauling Ruiz as he is not a flashy speedster like RJ and doesn't have his reflexes either. If Haye catches Roy clean he goes to sleep though.
     
    rluevano, Nov 20, 2008
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  14. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Lets put this in perspective


    Haye is Taller the Ruiz with the same reach.... more powerful, better reflexes, and faster....

    I can see Haye completey swarming Jones, and winning the fight, or waiting for Jones to try and do something and then it becomes a little more interesting, if Haye falls into this counterpunching mode...

    but sorry, Haye too big, too powerful to go with his speed and own reflexes.

    Im not saying i couldnt see RJJ pull it off... but i think Haye should win and would win.....
     
    kirk, Nov 20, 2008
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  15. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    This is boxing, Roy is GOING to get hit, hell... ruiz hit him for gods sakes, hes not unhittable for someone as fast as haye. i dont feel he has to be hit cleanly to be stopped by Haye... i think haye could force him to the ropes (which a lot of opponents have done, in which roy covers up), unload on roy, and roy isnt durable and tough enough to survive it, or falls apart and becomes gun shy and loses the decision.

    my opinion...
     
    kirk, Nov 20, 2008
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