rjj vs dm

Me too.:yep

And I really believe Jones would have kicked Rocco's ass, Jones knew he would too, I have a hard time believing Jones ducked him.

 

Yeah the outcome was not in doubt. Rocco, knew, Jones knew it everyone knew it. Even in his win against Nunn, Rocco showed NOTHING that would worry Jones. He begrudginly accepted the fight, and as soon as his legal team said he had a case, he was out. FAST.


Keith

 

Is this the same Rocco that Eubank easily beat on foreign turf?

Just curioius, like. The Jones haters keep bringing this guys name up as though he was the anti-Jones or something and he couldn't even out-box Eubank in the eyes of his own bought and biased judges :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Damn shame Jones carried on after the Ruiz fight, or even the first Tarver fight. He'd be remembered in a much better light otherwise.

Easy to knock the guy when he's on the slide but when he was at his best he was literally unstoppable. It comes to something when his detractors have to bring up names like Douglas and Lewis, when the guy was a natural middleweight.

 

I have to agree with you here.:yep

The guy gets **** for fighting Ruiz instead of Lewis, who is in the top 5 greatest heavyweights of all time, and completely huge, held a 50 lb weight advantage over Heavyweight Jones and a 10 inch reach advantage also 6 inches of height over Jones.

In my opinion, even haters are holding Jones in a high regard, suggesting he should have taken on that kind of challenge, being a former MW champ.:deal

 

Jones was a victim of his own success.....he beat Toney and Hopkins too early and too easily, maybe he should have fought bums for 10 years and then fought them when they were way past it, that was the Joe Calzaghe career path and he gets credit big-style on here for doing it despite the fact that his level of opponent for his entire career before the geriatrics came along was absolutely ****ing pathetic. Yeah, Jones is a glass jawed coward for fighting those guys when he was a relative baby....makes me ****ing sick.

Not to mention the fact that his response to the Tarver win was "OK, immediate rematch", OK he lost but what did Slappy do after he had that close fight with Reid, or Hopkins? Yep, he ran for another opponent.

 

Or even giving Tarver the fight in the first place...

People accuse him of ducking and so on, and I myself wish he would have done a little more to make certain fights happen.

Tarver proved, that all you have to do to fight Roy Jones is **** him off bad enough, he was the first one to try to that extent, and he got Roy to drop a bunch of weight and take a high risk, low reward fight. Though in hindsight, to drop back down from Heavy and regain the Light Heavyweight title in your very next fight, is something only hall of fame fighters have done.

None of the fighters of his era he didn't fight came close to trying as hard as Tarver did.

 

This fight wouldn't have mattered one bit, nobody would have mentioned it over the Tarver, Hopkins, Toney, Ruiz wins. Hell I probably would rank it ahead of the Reggie Johnson or Montell Griffin wins.

 

Roy had a huge ego, he still does...

After he was the man, he felt like he held all the cards and the fighters should come to his terms... Rightfully so, he will be remembered as a much greater fighter than any one of the fighters he did not fight.

I wish DM, Benn, Eubank, Rocco, Liles or any of those guys tried to **** him off like Tarver did. I give Tarver much credit for doing what he did. But at the same time, Eubank and Benn have both expressed in their own words that Roy would be all they could handle, and I think they were a bit intimidated by him.

Once Roy was the man, he felt the other fighters had to submit to his demands, I wish he was a little less like that but his ego was talking, can't blame him but I honestly think he could have increased his legacy because I don't think he loses to any of the fighters i mentioned.

There would always be haters, that look too much on what he didn't do, and looking too much into his post prime losses, while ignoring what he actually did.
His credentials speak for themselves.

• Named 1994 Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year
• Ranked as the #1 Pound-for-Pound Boxer of All-Time in the Nov./Dec. 1997 issue of International Boxing Digest.
• His victory on April 25, 1998 over Virgil Hill was named Ring Magazine Knockout of the Year.
• Voted "Fighter of the Decade" for the 1990s by the Boxing Writers Association of America.
• 2003 World Boxing Hall of Fame Fighter of the Year

 

you wish. dm was even a one punch ko artist

 

Don't feed the troll..............



Keith

 

:yep you're right

 

About 10%. He wouldn´t have beaten him but it was hard to beat him. Roy wouldn´t have been as comfortable with him as he was used too, and not as dominant.

 

Lewis ducked Byrd and Ruiz too, does anybody think they would have beaten him?

Fact is, Roy pulled out with a BS excuse.

 

Yeah, that easy that evens Eubank´s own corner thought he lost and were surprised by the result and would call it a lucky win. Easy. Right.

 

He does not get **** for beating Ruiz but for what his fanboys make out of that win. Ruiz was just a beltholer and one of the worst ever. He was also made for Jones stylewise and the ref was instructed to not let him fight his fight. Good win but hardly as special as his fanboys make it out to be.