rjj vs james toney at heavyweight

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  1. killuminix

    killuminix yes im back Full Member

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    rjj coming off his victory over ruiz vs toney coming off his victory over holyfield
    thoughts :think
     
  2. Trixie

    Trixie Active Member Full Member

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    big toney fan but i just dont think he can do anything to offset rjj's higher work rate and far superior speed.
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney catches him and Roid does the chicken dance
     
  4. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Same as when they fought. Toney´s feet are stuck in cement while Roy´s quite quick on his feet and much faster with his hands. Wide UD for Roy.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    toney was a better HW then jones by a considerable margin IMO.

    considering the circumstances of the time I'd say toney stops him late.

    unless you want me to buy into the theory it was weight loss and not age that led to his rapid downfall?
     
  6. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones.

    Superior footwork and he won't be standing in front of Toney. And James is not running this guy down. Jones does the quick hands, in and out, and just scores the points to a decision win. No risks at any time and never exchanges or stays in the pocket waiting for a receipt. Toney will be out of range and not able to land enough punches to win the rounds.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Styles make fights, so Jones UD 120-108

    Watch his fights with Woods, Ruiz then his first fight with Tarver - he looks allot older. Tarver is a better fighter but Jones just looked terrible and was gassed by round 5 - the commentators talk about him gasping for air. Listen to the commentary, they said Roy looked terrible after losing the weight and told them pre-fight he couldn't put any weight back on.

    BTW a better HW? Jones won every round against Ruiz, Toney went something like 8-4 with him
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  9. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Losing that solid muscle from the Ruiz fight to the Tarver fight at his age ruined RJJ.

    I assume if RJJ had stayed at heavy, he'd have had a couple impressive fights left in him, & decisioned Toney again.
     
  10. Muchmoore

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    This.

    Just not a matchup that smiles at Lights Out.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Even in the woods fight he looked to be slipping a bit imo.

    How to put this into words, jones fought ruiz like he didn't belong at the weight. Toney fought ruiz like he was a hw. Plus he has the wins over holyfield, booker, guinn, peter 1 and his draw with rahman (not watched it for a while so can't make a real comment other than accept the official result)

    From 03-06 toney was a top class hw and campaigned successfully at the weight.

    Jones had a great victory and then left the division.

    For the record i'd loved to have seen both against byrd who probably had it in him to be a great lhw.