RJJ vs Ruiz - 13 years ago today

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  1. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Oh yeah... He won a paper belt from a manufactured fraud who went on to lose to another blown up MW.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Face palming over facts? :D
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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  5. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks! Yep, Borges and 8 other writers along with many fans I spoke to picked Ruiz. Everybody forgets the sentiment going in.
     
  6. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Remember when Toney knocked Holyfield clean frapping out....something Tyson never came close to doing.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's true, nobody other than Tua dominated Ruiz like that during his prime, which shocked people, even those who had picked Roy probably didn't think he'd win in such dominant fashion.

    Yes with hindsight, Ruiz was a carefully picked opponent and the way Toney beat him as well exposed a flaw to speed in regards to his jab and grab style but it can't be denied that the risk was real.

    It's one thing to pick an opponent that much bigger than you thinking you can win, it's still takes a ton of courage to actually go through with it. The fact Roy pulled out before from a fight at heavyweight before with Buster Douglas when Roy was prime shows that stepping up was always going to be a huge risk. Also the fact we saw Roy utilise his often forgotten jab shows that even he thought this fight was a big risk and he couldn't just fight like he always did.
     
  8. plank46

    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    one of the worst title fights ever.
     
  9. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    What fight were you watching? :huh

    That never happened. Holyfield beat the count and the referee was going to let him continue his corner stopped the fight.

    That isn't knocking someone "clean frapping out" :rofl:patsch
     
  10. Imperial1

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    Yes they did they said Jones was in there with a pit but that he couldn't run from..
     
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both MW's he lost to are multiple division champs, were considered top 1 or 2 P4P in their prime, first ballot HOF'ers and have ATG skillsets.... :patsch

    Ruiz, like him or not was a top 5 heavyweight, who "everyone" had trouble with. It was a great win...
     
  12. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Toney was a decent HW. I don't think it does anything to take away from Roy's win over Ruiz. Though I picked both Toney and Roy to beat him, there was much more of a clear size advantage for Ruiz vs. Roy, making Roy's win more spectacular. Plus Roy beat him first. I see that criteria used when evaluating other wins, why forget it here?
     
  13. Loudon

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  14. Loudon

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  15. Loudon

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