RJJ vs. The Great Small Heavies

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  1. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I could tell you why Jones could not beat Rocky at HW, but frankly I can't be arsed.
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Go on then. Rocky would not walk through Roy's punches and he would get badly outboxed. Whats saying he cant win.

    I would go as far as to say if they fought and it went to the cards Marciano would lose a comfortable UD.
     
  3. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh be serious.
     
  4. joe33

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    If the rock lands on him,and he will,its all over,the man was a ****ing machine this **** is just dumb,the rock aint ruiz,he will come at him all night,hit him everywhere if he has to,just to slow him down,and was one if not the fittest heavys if not boxers of all time,some of this is just laughable.No way RJJ has the power to stop him,and he aint gonna be able to run away all night.
     
  5. joe33

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    Thats what i think,he would walk through JRRs punches,and so i dont see how he could keep away all night,but **** it would sure be interesting to see.
     
  6. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Jones would have had the power to stop Rocky walking through him. He also does not have the fastest hands or feet in the world.

    To be honest Rocky would be behind significantly on the cards if he was to KO Roy. Which is the most likley outcome of the fight. But Roy's Handspeed, footspeed and Reflex's were damn good. It is in now way impossable that Roy would out point Rocky.
     
  7. joe33

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    Yes it is,rocky would not let it get that far,and no he would not have the power to stop the rock walking through him,ruiz he ****ing aint,this is rather silly and very disrespectful to marciano,**** i know lets go back to all the old time greats and rip on them by saying a smaller man of today could beat them all:-(
     
  8. 196osh

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    I didnt say that I think that smaller men could beat them. Also I think the most likley outcome for this fight is a Rocky KO.

    But he was very slow, Roy would hit him alot. Also you cant walk through Roy Jones. It wouldnt and couldnt happen.

    Picture the situation, Rocky moving forward hands relitivly open, Roy throws his bodyweight (200lbs) into a lead right, that wouldnt stop Marciano?

    The most likley outcome over 12/15 rounds is that Marciano catch's Roy with something hurts Roy badly enough so he is not as fast on his feet and takes him out.

    But in no way would this be some blowout with Marciano just walking through Jones no way no how.
     
  9. Hadrian

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    I agree, I think the only blowout is Smoking Joe
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    Marciano- I'm gonna say Jones by Decision, although he is obviously capable of getting caught, being as Marciano was tireless. Jones would have to fight safety-first, which I think he would, on his way to a comfortable UD with a few scares along the way.

    Frazier- Frazier by KO at some point, too much strength, power, and pressure, moreso than even Rock(not so much in power, but the other two), and was a better athlete than Rock, more explosive.

    Walcott- Very tough matchup. Both cuties, both slick and unorthodox, both powerful. I think Walcott may be one to stop Jones honestly, though that isn't to say that Jones isn't capable of winning. But I'd favor Walcott's slickness and own unorthodoxy to catch Jones at some point, and give him more problems than most styles, similar to the way a Montell Griffin was able to. No way Jones survives a full punch from Walcott either.

    Dempsey- Jones by TKO

    Patterson- Patterson by KO, would be better at LHW, but I'd still likely pick Patterson.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    You think so? You think he'd outpoint him to a Decision? I'd rather it was at LHW, being as both were better at the weight.
     
  12. McGrain

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    LHW would be fine with me.

    Jones is a little bit quicker, and it was speed that brought Patterson success (that and great, great heart) - so he's having a crucial, crucial attribute where he is normally clearly superior overhauled in such dramatic fashion against a fighter of this quality should prove problematic.

    Could Patterson pressure and outwork Jones? Sure. But Jones can punch, is accurate, and is a great counter-puncher. These things being true I think Jones should start this one as favourite.

    Both might visit the deck, but I think Jones' slickness just gets him home.
     
  13. Florida boy

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    i agree, but Jones is more then a bit quicker, when he fought at heavy he was the fastest ever.
     
  14. Sweet Pea

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    How much Patterson at LHW have you seen? He was extremely quick, with a great punch, especially his left hook, and I am not sure when facing someone with similar physical attributes(though Jones was slicker and more of the out-boxing type) that he would manage not to get caught. Patterson was a great puncher, and would be on Jones. Both could hurt the other, but I think Jones would be more content to pot-shot than to go for the kill, as Patterson would.
     
  15. Sweet Pea

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    Can we get off this played out, cliche'd mindset? Fighters from old eras ducked fighters as well, namely the consensus GOAT, Ray Robinson. There are fighters of every era that fight for money, etc, and many that take on all comers, not just the old-timers.