RJJ vs. These Guys @ SMW.

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  1. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Benn and G-Man have punchers chances.. But I think he beats them and everyone on the list.. Prime Roy was on a different level. .
     
  2. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    atberry,

    Benn vs. Jones stylistically is not in Benn's favor.. Jones' power was up there with Benn's but Jones was much faster, had better footwork and was much harder to hit, Benn also didn't have such a great chin himself...

    Benn would realize early like many others, that he either had to take his foot off the gas, or continue and most likely get knocked out. I would put money on Roy being able to take advantage of Benn's somewhat predictable punches. Benn was good, but lets be real, Roy's talent was on a different level.. Benn has little more than a punchers chance in my honest opinion.
     
  3. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Predictable punches? Nigel Benn?
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who did Nigel ever face with the speed and power of Roy?

    We saw what happened when Watson and Eubank stopped him.

    I'll go with what Mind Reader said. He would have been dangerous early, but it wouldn't have been enough. Benn himself didn't have a great chin, and Roy was far more accurate with better footwork. I think Benn's aggressiveness would have tired him out late on, and then Roy would have capitalized. I think Roy would have scored a late TKO.
     
  5. Box-Fan

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    I haven't seen much of him fight at all but looking at his record Chong Pal Park seemed to have power as well?
     
  6. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There was no other fighter out there like Roy OR Nigel! It would've been a first for both, and the only for both. Benn was an abnormally fast starter with abnormally good natural punching leverages. Jones had abnormally fast reflexes and an abnormal fighting style. But going back to basics, we have a puncher vs a puncher (I can't call Jones a boxer-puncher or boxer because he threw as many leaping hooks as most fighters threw jabs), and the puncher who's chin was far more proven is Nigel Benn, and also the puncher who was far more dangerous when hurt is Nigel Benn...... And let's get this straight: Benn could move forward faster than Jones could move backwards, that's basic. Benn, then, has less than a six-round window to take Jones's head off - because we saw that Benn at his most aggressive could no longer throw his most power-laced shots in the sixth round (Watson fight). And he would do it, in my personal opinion - take Jones's head off.
     
  7. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Watson fight was due to exhaustion, and admittedly, if the fight went six rounds or more, Jones would step it up and take Benn out.

    See Round 7 of the Eubank-Benn I fight, and see the sneaky counter overhand right that Eubank lands flush (you'll know it when you see it) that clearly had all his weight behind - how Benn stays on his feet from that punch I'll never ever know. He also took everything Gerald McClellan had in his right hand for 10 rounds, the heaviest hand in history below heavyweight! The guy has a much more proven chin than Roy Jones Jr ;)
     
  8. Box-Fan

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    After four rounds Benn would be gassed out and Roy would finish him off by the seventh.
     
  9. Jorodz

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  10. Loudon

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    It wouldn't have been a battle of chins.

    There were exceptional circumstances with Gerald.

    Benn was lucky to survive the 1st round, and it's evident now that there was something wrong with Gerald and his trainer should have picked up on it before the fight.

    I agree that Benn probably had a better chin, but it doesn't matter in my opinion.

    Roy would not have been there to be hit.

    He was exhausted against Watson, but he wouldn't have been against Roy?

    Watson and Eubank stopped him, yet Roy wouldn't have been able to?

    I know that styles make fights, but Roy was on a another level to those guys in his mid 20's.

    If Benn had have caught him clean, Roy would have been asleep. But I don't think he'd have caught him.
     
  11. Loudon

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    Benn couldn't have just moved forward if Roy was firing too.

    I agree entirely that Benn would have had a 5-6 round window.

    I respect your opinion, but I don't agree.

    I think Roy's speed and skills would be enough to keep him out of harms way until Nigel tired.

    It's a shame we never saw it. :good
     
  12. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Maybe I worded it wrong, but Benn's loaded up shots were often telegraphed. Up against one of the hardest people to hit of all time, with some of the quickest reactions of all time, who also had power and was much faster, had more variety of punch arsenal, just overall better fighter... Benn has that punchers chance early, like you said about 6 rounds.. B

    Also, I wouldn't call the G-Man fight a testament to Benn's chin.. With a different referee, that could have very well been a KO/TKO 1 McClellan.. I have seen WAY worse stoppages, McClellan obviously had something wrong with him as well.

    Roy Jones is on a different level than Benn.. All these chin assumptions of Roy were all made way past his prime.. In his prime, he could take a stiff shot just fine. Like I said, Benn has a chance, but it isn't something you would want to bet on. James Toney was one of the best counter punchers of the era and could only land one meaningful power shot on Roy, and he walked through it... I think Benn and Roy would have been fireworks, don't get me wrong, but Roy's skills would have prevailed, had Benn not hit an early home run.

    But as Loudon said, the biggest shame would not be to the winner/loser of this fight, but that the fight was never made.
     
  13. sugarkills

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    I see no one has a response to this, so I must be right. :D