RJJ's 50-0 or JC's 46-0?

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  1. DDA365

    DDA365 Gatecrasher Full Member

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    Roy.

    1989
    May 6 -- Ricky Randall, Pensacola, Florida, KO 2
    June 11 -- Stephan Johnson, Atlantic City, New Jersey, KO 8
    Sep. 3 -- Ron Amundsen, Pensacola, Florida, KO 7
    Nov. 30 -- Dave McCluskey, Pensacola, Florida, KO 3

    1990
    Jan. 8 -- Joe Edens, Mobile, Alabama, KO 2
    Feb. 28 -- Billy Mitchum, Pensacola, Florida, TKO 2
    Mar. 28 -- Knox Brown, Pensacola, Florida, KO 3
    May 11 -- Ron Johnson, Pensacola, Florida, KO 2
    July 14 -- Tony Waddles, Pensacola, Florida, KO 1
    Sep. 25 -- Rollin Williams, Pensacola, Florida, KO 4
    Nov. 8 -- Reggie Miller, Pensacola, Florida, KO 5

    1991
    Jan. 31 -- Ricky Stackhouse, Pensacola, Florida, KO 1
    Apr. 13 -- Eddie Evans, Pensacola, Florida, TKO 3
    Aug. 3 -- Kevin Daigle, Pensacola, Florida, TKO 2
    Aug. 31 -- Lester Yarbrough, Pensacola, Florida, KO 8

    1992
    Jan. 10 -- Jorge Vaca, New York City, KO 1
    Apr. 3 -- Art Serwano, Reno, Nevada, KO 1
    June 30 -- Jorge Castro, Pensacola, Florida, W 10
    Aug. 18 -- Glenn Thomas, Pensacola, Florida, KO 8
    Dec. 5 -- Percy Harris, Atlantic City, New Jersey, KO 4

    1993
    Feb. 13 -- Glenn Wolfe, Las Vegas, Nevada, KO 1
    May 22 -- Bernard Hopkins, Washington D.C, W 12
    (Captured IBF middleweight title)
    Aug. 14 -- Thulane Malinga, St. Louis Bay, Mississippi, KO 6
    Nov. 30 -- Fermin Chirino, Pensacola, Florida, W 10

    1994
    Mar. 22 -- Daniel Garcia, Pensacola, Florida, KO 6
    May 27 -- Thomas Tate, Las Vegas, Nevada, KO 2
    (Retained IBF middleweight title)
    Nov. 18 -- James Toney, Las Vegas, Nevada, W 12
    (Captured IBF super middleweight title)

    1995
    Mar. 18 -- Antoine Byrd, Pensacola, Florida, TKO 1
    (Retained IBF super middleweight title)
    June 24 -- Vinny Pazienza, Atlantic City, New Jersey, TKO 6
    (Retained IBF super middleweight title)
    Sep. 30 -- Tony Thornton, Pensacola, Florida, TKO 2
    (Retained IBF super middleweight title)

    1996
    Jan. 12 -- Merqui Sosa, New York City, TKO 2
    June 15 -- Eric Lucas, Jacksonville, Florida, KO 11
    (Retained IBF super middleweight title)
    Oct. 4 -- Bryant Brannon, New York City, KO 2
    (Retained IBF super middleweight title)
    Nov. 22 -- Mike McCallum, Tampa, Florida, W 12
    (Won interim WBC light heavyweight title)

    1997
    Mar. 21 -- Montell Griffin, Atlantic City, New Jersey, L DQ 9
    (Lost WBC light heavyweight title)
    Aug. 21 -- Montell Griffin, Ledyard, Connecticut, KO 1
    (Regained WBC light heavyweight title)

    1998
    Apr. 25 -- Virgil Hill, Biloxi,Mississippi, KO 4
    July 18 -- Lou Del Valle, New York, W 12
    (Unified WBC and WBA light heavyweight titles)
    Nov. 14 -- Otis Grant, Mashantucket, Connecticut, TKO 10
    (Retained WBC and WBA light heavyweight titles)

    1999
    Jan. 9 -- Rick Frazier, Pensacola, Florida, KO 2
    (Retained WBC and WBA light heavyweight titles)
    June 5 -- Reggie Johnson, Biloxi, Mississippi, W 12
    (Unifies WBA-WBC-IBF light heavyweight titles)

    2000
    Jan. 15 -- David Telesco, New York City, W 12
    (Retained unified light heavyweight title)
    May 13 -- Richard Hall, Indianapolis, Indiana, TKO 11
    (Retained unified light heavyweight title)
    Sept. 9 -- Eric Harding, New Orleans, Louisiana, TKO 10
    (Retained unified light heavyweight title)

    2001
    Feb. 24 -- Derrick Harmon, Tampa, Florida, TKO 10
    (Retained unified light heavyweight title)
    July 28 -- Julio Gonzalez, Los Angeles, California, W 12
    (Retained unified light heavyweight title)

    2002
    Feb. 2 -- Glenn Kelly, Miami, Florida, TKO 7
    (Retained unified light heavyweight title)
    Sept. 7 -- Clinton Woods, Portland, Oregon, TKO 6
    (Retained unified light heavyweight title)

    2003
    March 1 -- John Ruiz, Las Vegas, Nevada, W 12
    (Captured WBA heavyweight title)
    Nov. 8 -- Antonio Tarver, Las Vegas, Nevada, W 12
    (Captured WBC light heavyweight title)









    Joe



    46 Wins, 0 Losses, 32 Knockouts 1993
    10-01 -- Paul Hanlon, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 1
    11-10 -- Paul Mason, Hertfordshire, England, TKO 1
    12-16 -- Spencer Alton, Newport, Wales, TKO 2

    1994
    01-22 -- Martin Rosamond, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 1
    03-01 -- Darren Littlewood, West Midlands, England, TKO 1
    06-04 -- Karl Barwise, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 1
    10-01 -- Mark Lee Dawson, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 1
    11-30 -- Trevor Ambrose, Wolverhampton, England, TKO 2

    1995
    02-14 -- Frank Minton, London, England, KO 1
    02-22 -- Bobbie Joe Edwards, Telford, England, W 8
    05-19 -- Robert Curry, London, England, TKO 1
    07-08 -- Tyrone Jackson, York, England, TKO 4
    09-30 -- Nick Manners, Essex, England, TKO 4
    10-28 -- Stephen Wilson, London, England, TKO 8

    1996
    02-13 -- Guy Stanford, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 1
    03-13 -- Anthony Brooks, London, England, TKO 2
    04-20 -- Mark Delaney, Essex, England, TKO 5
    05-04 -- Warren Stowe, Essex, England, TKO 2
    05-15 -- Pat Lawlor, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 2

    1997
    01-21 -- Carlos Christie, Bristol, England, TKO 2
    03-22 -- Tyler Hughes, Manchester, England, KO 1
    06-05 -- Luciano Torres, Bristol, England, TKO 3
    10-11 -- Chris Eubank, Sheffield, England, W 12
    (Won Vacant WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    1998
    01-24 -- Branko Sobot, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 3
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    04-25 -- Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 9
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    1999
    02-13 -- Robin Reid, Newcastle, England, W 12
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    06-05 -- Rick Thornberry, Cardiff, Wales, W 12
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    2000
    01-29 -- David Starie, Manchester, England, W 12
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    08-12 -- Omar Sheika, London, England, TKO 5
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    12-16 -- Richie Woodhall, Sheffield, England, TKO 10
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    2001
    04-28 -- Mario Veit, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 1
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    10-13 -- Will McIntyre, Copenhagen, Denmark, TKO 4
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    2002
    04-20 -- Charles Brewer, Cardiff, Wales, W 12
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    08-17 -- Miguel Angel Jimenez, Cardiff, Wales, W 12
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    12-14 -- Tocker Pudwill, Newcastle, England, TKO 2
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    2003
    06-28 -- Byron Mitchell, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 2
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    2004
    02-21 -- Mger Mkrtchian, Cardiff, Wales, TKO 7
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    10-22 -- Kabary Salem, Edinburgh, Scotland, W 12
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    2005
    05-07 -- Mario Veit, Braunschweig, Germany, TKO 6
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    09-10 -- Evans Ashira, Cardiff, Wales, W 12
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    2006
    03-04 -- Jeff Lacy, Manchester, England, W 12 *RECAP*
    (Won IBF Super Middleweight Title)
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    10-14 -- Sakio Bika, Manchester, England, W 12 *RECAP*
    (Retained IBF Super Middleweight Title)
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    2007
    04-07 -- Peter Manfredo Jr., Cardiff, Wales, TKO 3 *RECAP*
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)
    11-03 -- Mikkel Kessler, Cardiff, Wales, W 12 *RECAP*
    (Won WBA Super Middleweight Title)
    (Won WBC Super Middleweight Title)
    (Retained WBO Super Middleweight Title)

    2008
    04-19 -- Bernard Hopkins, Las Vegas, NV, W 12 *RECAP*
    11-08 -- Roy Jones Jr., New York, New York, W 12 *RECAP*
     
  2. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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  3. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your numbers are off. :yep

    That being said, Roy easily had the better resume.
     
  4. BadJuju83

    BadJuju83 Bolivian Full Member

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    JCC 87-0.

    What's your point.

    Without the DQ and if he had retired after Tarver 1, no question.


    But that didnt happen.
     
  5. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy was never 50-0 unless I am mistaken

    RJJ beat the better fighters though
     
  6. sprika2

    sprika2 Active Member Full Member

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    prime for prime i'll go for Roy
     
  7. DDA365

    DDA365 Gatecrasher Full Member

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    Obviously I counted Griffin 1 as a win. Dont count it as a win fair enough but he didnt lose that boxing match.

    I just find it interesting how much value people place on the 0.

    It seems a lot of people on here rate Calzaghes resume better than Roys purely because Joes got the 0. So I thought if you compare their 2 unbeaten streaks, would the same people come out with a different answer?
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Rjj had the much better resume and i'd favor his 50-0 over roys 46-0..even though it shouldn't have happened he still had the dq so u gotta take that into count!
     
  9. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The mind that comes up with a thread like this........

    (Calzaghe hating no doubt)
    To answer your REAL question YES Roy has had a better career.

    Now Delete please.
     
  10. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Jones, no contest. That's being impartial, Jones's comp was stronger and the general standard of his performances was far far higher. Jones was close to victory v Griffin in the DQ, and I have seen Margarito (v Cotto) and Pacquiao (v Marquez) and many others do exactly what Jones got DQ'd for in that fight, and they didn't even get a point taken by the ref for it.
     
  11. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Wow! Jones did beat Marciano's record?! Didn't know about that! Thx!
     
  12. DDA365

    DDA365 Gatecrasher Full Member

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    Not really. Although I dont like the man.

    I was just honestly shocked to see the value people placed on the 0. So I thought if you think about it as undefeated runs, it might make a better or more objective comparison.
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I voted Roy Jones.

    I really wish all votes would be made public, what reason could anyone have for needing to hide their identity other than they dont believe in their pick.
     
  14. sam_sunders

    sam_sunders science Full Member

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    RJ, but not by THAT much. In their primes - on of my ultimate fantasy matches. THAT would be insane.
     
  15. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    no he didn't lol.. Jones was Dq in his first fight vs montell griffin. He hit griffin while he was down and griffin couldn't continue so jones was DQ and loss the fight.

    1997
    Mar. 21 -- Montell Griffin, Atlantic City, New Jersey, L DQ 9
    (Lost WBC light heavyweight title)