Roach admits, he loaded Pac's handwraps!

Skilletscuz · Nov 14, 2010

divac said: ↑

Aztecas on a different thread talking about Pacquiao's wraps, I believe is is going overboard to discredit Pacquiao's victory.......

I'm not here to do that, but I do want to point out that Freddie Roach thinks that how Pacquiao wrapped his hands vs Margarito is illegal.

How ironic that Roach protested to the commision when DLH wrapped his hands exactly the same way, and he was concerned that the ridges that stick out when you roll up the tape and gauze inbetween the fingers could cut his fighter.
....again, Roach is Nostradomus, a straight left right at Margarito's eye socket, cut him right up.....

Let me make it clear before any of you *******s starts to ***** that its sour grapes.......:nonoI dont believe one way or the other that Pacquiao's handwraps made the difference in the fight.

I'm just here to point at Freddie Roach's hypocrisy, and to say that he purposely allowed and likely instructed Pacquiao to wrap this hands exactly the way DLH did that night vs Pac.....

......the only difference is that when Roach complained to the commision about the ridges on DLH's knuckles, the inspector instructed DLH to make the roll of gauze/tape less thicker inbetween the fingers.

Now, Sergio Garcia when he went to feel Pacquiao's handwrap at the knuckles, protested.....its on videotape, Garcia said, "when I was wrapping Margarito, the inspector told me there should not be any ridges on the fist area."...."I'm feeling Pacquiao's wraps and you can clearly feel the ridges popping out of Pacquiao's knuckles."

Now that to me is a valid concern. The overseeing commision inspector did not allow for Pacquiao to rewrap his hand because unbelievably, (as if they still have'nt learned from the Margarito case with Mosley) they had already signed off in front of a Margarito camp representative who OK'd it.

I however find it ridiculous that the commision would ignore something like ridges sticking out on the top of your knuckle area, when in the other room the inpector there had told Garcia that the top of Margarito's fist area should be flat with no ridges.

In this case you have two different inspectors instructing the camps two different ways, one telling Margarito and Garcia, "No ridges are allowed".....and on the Pac side, the inspector being OK with the ridges.

My beef to the commision, get it right and have the inspectors rule unilaterally with the same rules on both sides.atsch

Again, imo the wraps likely did not have a real bearing on the fight, but Roach is a hypocrite who purposely cheated and let his fighter wrap his hands in a way that was according to his own opinion "Illegal" "the ridges can cut a fighter."

No doubt that Freddie Roach is a cheating *******!

Here's the link to Roach's hypocrisy........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrqKhFFlxHY

Guys, discuss this rationally without name calling.
I personally think the commsion could have handled it better, and if there were ridges sticking out of Pacquiao's wrapped fist, he should have been made to re-wrap irregardless of the representative from Margarito's camp not having initially protested.

Thats just the thing here......both fighters were wrapping their hands at the same time, but because Garcia was wrapping Margarito's hands, he was'nt present when Pacquiao wrapped his own.

Garcia had a valid concern because he brought to the table what the inspector who inspected him had said......"no ridges on the fist area."
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who ****ing cares if Freddy is a hypocrit. the only thing i care about what he says is about his fighter... and thats it. If you want to worship him, thats your problem...

ANYTIME the TITLE of the thread is misleading in conjunction of the actual material presented of the thread, makes the whole presentation discreditable and shows an obvious agenda....

How did Roach load Pac's wraps at the Pacquiao/Margarito fight?

I'm not here to do that, but I do want to point out that Freddie Roach thinks that how Pacquiao wrapped his hands vs Margarito is illegal.
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So your claim though is Manny was "instructed" to cheat by doing some "twists" or ridges around the knuckle? And there wasnt a rep of the boxing commission not watching the whole time or signed off on the wrap? And there wasnt a Sergio Garcia watching also?

The conflict of the techniques used between the 2 camps is wholly on the boxing commission. It is their fault if there's inconsistent ruling between the 2 reps. Manny Pacquiao's self-wrapping job was physically signed off by the boxing commission after direct observation of the job.

PLEASE TELL ME HOW HE CHEATED IN FRONT OF THE BOXING COMMISSION AND SERGIO GARCIA?!?!

OR SHUT THE **** UP ALREADY

johnnydrama · Nov 14, 2010

divac said: ↑

Aztecas on a different thread talking about Pacquiao's wraps, I believe is is going overboard to discredit Pacquiao's victory.......

I'm not here to do that, but I do want to point out that Freddie Roach thinks that how Pacquiao wrapped his hands vs Margarito is illegal.

How ironic that Roach protested to the commision when DLH wrapped his hands exactly the same way, and he was concerned that the ridges that stick out when you roll up the tape and gauze inbetween the fingers could cut his fighter.
....again, Roach is Nostradomus, a straight left right at Margarito's eye socket, cut him right up.....

Let me make it clear before any of you *******s starts to ***** that its sour grapes.......:nonoI dont believe one way or the other that Pacquiao's handwraps made the difference in the fight.

I'm just here to point at Freddie Roach's hypocrisy, and to say that he purposely allowed and likely instructed Pacquiao to wrap this hands exactly the way DLH did that night vs Pac.....

......the only difference is that when Roach complained to the commision about the ridges on DLH's knuckles, the inspector instructed DLH to make the roll of gauze/tape less thicker inbetween the fingers.

Now, Sergio Garcia when he went to feel Pacquiao's handwrap at the knuckles, protested.....its on videotape, Garcia said, "when I was wrapping Margarito, the inspector told me there should not be any ridges on the fist area."...."I'm feeling Pacquiao's wraps and you can clearly feel the ridges popping out of Pacquiao's knuckles."

Now that to me is a valid concern. The overseeing commision inspector did not allow for Pacquiao to rewrap his hand because unbelievably, (as if they still have'nt learned from the Margarito case with Mosley) they had already signed off in front of a Margarito camp representative who OK'd it.

I however find it ridiculous that the commision would ignore something like ridges sticking out on the top of your knuckle area, when in the other room the inpector there had told Garcia that the top of Margarito's fist area should be flat with no ridges.

In this case you have two different inspectors instructing the camps two different ways, one telling Margarito and Garcia, "No ridges are allowed".....and on the Pac side, the inspector being OK with the ridges.

My beef to the commision, get it right and have the inspectors rule unilaterally with the same rules on both sides.atsch

Again, imo the wraps likely did not have a real bearing on the fight, but Roach is a hypocrite who purposely cheated and let his fighter wrap his hands in a way that was according to his own opinion "Illegal" "the ridges can cut a fighter."

No doubt that Freddie Roach is a cheating *******!

Here's the link to Roach's hypocrisy........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrqKhFFlxHY

Guys, discuss this rationally without name calling.
I personally think the commsion could have handled it better, and if there were ridges sticking out of Pacquiao's wrapped fist, he should have been made to re-wrap irregardless of the representative from Margarito's camp not having initially protested.

Thats just the thing here......both fighters were wrapping their hands at the same time, but because Garcia was wrapping Margarito's hands, he was'nt present when Pacquiao wrapped his own.

Garcia had a valid concern because he brought to the table what the inspector who inspected him had said......"no ridges on the fist area."
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The wraps were fine. one of the commission's officers was speaking to Rios about PAC's wraps and dismissed any further discussion about "illegal wraps". PAC dominated one of the best WW's in Marg at a higher weight class and gave up a lot of physical advantages. Great win and I'm glad boxing has a MASSIVE Buzz after that dominating win and history making fight.

madkillaz692000 · Nov 14, 2010

Houseof7GB said: ↑

Nothing illegal about it but thanks for pointing out this 'hypocrisy', for I have learned something from this and reveals Roach to be a brilliant tactictian, the premier mind fcker in the bizness...looks like he reads and applies Sun Tzu's code on psychologic warfare in the seminal thesis, the Art of War. Roach would be negligent in his responsibility as a trainer qua manager if he did not exhuast all possible tricks to fck the other team...as long as he is within the bound of the written rule, deception, as you call hypocrisy, is called for. Part of the battle in the ring is fought outside the ring...you should be glad that these guys are giving our money's worth, entertaining us with the fights they fight and at the same time getting some lessons on the art of fighting without fighting!
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Amen.:deal

Main Events · Nov 14, 2010

Pacquiao beat JMM, get over it LOL

igor_otsky · Nov 14, 2010

who wrapped pac's hands? roach was seen on the vid (TR PPV) watching Marg's hands wrapped.

Relentless · Nov 14, 2010

why is anyone still arguing with that border jumper?

Capitan · Nov 14, 2010

So, what's your point ?

turk182 · Nov 14, 2010

team margarito and the boxing commission were there in pac's locker room when pac's hands were being wrapped. if there was something illegal going on, they would've spotted it.

how about the Ephedra, a banned stimulant which is a PED found in margarito's locker room before the fight? it was supposed to be used to spike the water that margarito drinks during the fight. team margarito said that they weren't able to use it. but we'll really never know if they actually did.

r2d2 · Nov 14, 2010

divac said: ↑

Aztecas on a different thread talking about Pacquiao's wraps, I believe is is going overboard to discredit Pacquiao's victory.......

I'm not here to do that, but I do want to point out that Freddie Roach thinks that how Pacquiao wrapped his hands vs Margarito is illegal.

How ironic that Roach protested to the commision when DLH wrapped his hands exactly the same way, and he was concerned that the ridges that stick out when you roll up the tape and gauze inbetween the fingers could cut his fighter.
....again, Roach is Nostradomus, a straight left right at Margarito's eye socket, cut him right up.....

Let me make it clear before any of you *******s starts to ***** that its sour grapes.......:nonoI dont believe one way or the other that Pacquiao's handwraps made the difference in the fight.

I'm just here to point at Freddie Roach's hypocrisy, and to say that he purposely allowed and likely instructed Pacquiao to wrap this hands exactly the way DLH did that night vs Pac.....

......the only difference is that when Roach complained to the commision about the ridges on DLH's knuckles, the inspector instructed DLH to make the roll of gauze/tape less thicker inbetween the fingers.

Now, Sergio Garcia when he went to feel Pacquiao's handwrap at the knuckles, protested.....its on videotape, Garcia said, "when I was wrapping Margarito, the inspector told me there should not be any ridges on the fist area."...."I'm feeling Pacquiao's wraps and you can clearly feel the ridges popping out of Pacquiao's knuckles."

Now that to me is a valid concern. The overseeing commision inspector did not allow for Pacquiao to rewrap his hand because unbelievably, (as if they still have'nt learned from the Margarito case with Mosley) they had already signed off in front of a Margarito camp representative who OK'd it.

I however find it ridiculous that the commision would ignore something like ridges sticking out on the top of your knuckle area, when in the other room the inpector there had told Garcia that the top of Margarito's fist area should be flat with no ridges.

In this case you have two different inspectors instructing the camps two different ways, one telling Margarito and Garcia, "No ridges are allowed".....and on the Pac side, the inspector being OK with the ridges.

My beef to the commision, get it right and have the inspectors rule unilaterally with the same rules on both sides.atsch

Again, imo the wraps likely did not have a real bearing on the fight, but Roach is a hypocrite who purposely cheated and let his fighter wrap his hands in a way that was according to his own opinion "Illegal" "the ridges can cut a fighter."

No doubt that Freddie Roach is a cheating *******!

Here's the link to Roach's hypocrisy........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrqKhFFlxHY

Guys, discuss this rationally without name calling.
I personally think the commsion could have handled it better, and if there were ridges sticking out of Pacquiao's wrapped fist, he should have been made to re-wrap irregardless of the representative from Margarito's camp not having initially protested.

Thats just the thing here......both fighters were wrapping their hands at the same time, but because Garcia was wrapping Margarito's hands, he was'nt present when Pacquiao wrapped his own.

Garcia had a valid concern because he brought to the table what the inspector who inspected him had said......"no ridges on the fist area."
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Funny! you always see on video how manny wraps his own hands....duH! its all documented!

jansby mac · Nov 14, 2010

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woke up my son from laughing at this ****.
Somebody ban this haters just until they deal with their personal issues.

divac · Nov 14, 2010

Houseof7GB said: ↑

Nothing illegal about it but thanks for pointing out this 'hypocrisy', for I have learned something from this and reveals Roach to be a brilliant tactictian, the premier mind fcker in the bizness...looks like he reads and applies Sun Tzu's code on psychologic warfare in the seminal thesis, the Art of War. Roach would be negligent in his responsibility as a trainer qua manager if he did not exhuast all possible tricks to fck the other team...as long as he is within the bound of the written rule, deception, as you call hypocrisy, is called for. Part of the battle in the ring is fought outside the ring...you should be glad that these guys are giving our money's worth, entertaining us with the fights they fight and at the same time getting some lessons on the art of fighting without fighting!
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Big ups to the hypocrite Roach for that, but what does it say about the Texas commision that completely ignores Garcia when he tells them that that inspector that was inspecting him wrap Margarito was telling him no ridges on the fist?:think

A double standard in favor of Pacquiao is what I saw.

elToro_Kabayo · Nov 14, 2010

from PEds to hypocrisy.. nice job divac

jchap · Nov 14, 2010

Roach proves hes the best trainer in the world yet again! He loaded Pac's gloves from another room WHILE watching Margo's hands be wrapped. Thats strait up magical. Roach is a sorcerer.

divac · Nov 15, 2010

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrqKhFFlxHY&feature=player_embedded[/ame]#!

Obviously from the video, Pacquiao before the DLH fight never used the rolled up tape/gauze inbetween the knuckles......Roach stated there he would try it and see if Pacquiao liked it for the DLH fight, since DLH was being allowed to do it.

The hypocrisy in Roach was that he did'nt think it was right that the commision allowed DLH to do it then.......

.......these commisions need to instruct their inspectors whats allowed and what is'nt allowed.

The inspector on the Margarito side said, "no ridges."
.....and yet the inspector on the Pacquiao side allowed it.

Again bafoons, I have in no way shape or form said that the wraps of Pacquiao made a difference in the fight.

.....what I'm pointing out here is that Roach is a hypocrite and that commisons in boxing are lacking in the teaching and orientation of their inspectors.

Grillinnap · Nov 15, 2010

Vlade Divac is the biggest flopper in the history of the NBA. And to think, that ****er got traded for Kobe Bean Bryant.

Oh, and Manu Ginobili is a close second.

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