roach admits he wants no part of crawford for pac

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  1. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    he made jmm wait because he was nervous...and when he finally gave him another fight at 147 it was only because he thought jmm couldnt fight there....because floyd toyed with him

    thats all u need to know about pac/jmm....listen...i dont hate pac...i think hes great....but lets not pretend like his career wasnt guided carefully too.....

    they waited for shane to look old....they fought oscar at a weight oscar hadnt made in about 8 years....and hatton was almost knocked out by juan lazcano after floyd made him kiss the buckle
     
  2. devon2

    devon2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Point is he didn't have to give JMM another rematch after the second fight. Fighting Barerra, Morales, going up 2 divisions to fight Oscar are all bigger risks than anything Floyd has done. This is proven by the fact Mayweather has never been an underdog to my knowledge( Mayweather-Corrales odds were about even).
     
  3. The Shockmaster

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    whatever you wanna say...yer entitled to your opinion....floyd names espn #1 p4p fighter of last 25 years...i dont think any serious boxing scribe will put manny ahead of floyd

    he fought barrera and morales when they were really the only big fights for him......later down the line other stuff materialized and he was hesistant to face jmm because there was more money elsewhere....when we all know jmm deserved his rematches....which is fine.....but lets not pretend like mannys career wasnt carefully guided once he got to a certain point....yeah he went up for oscar...who was a corpse and hadnt made 147 in like 8 years.....
     
  4. Ilesey

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  5. Manfred

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    I wouldn't write Pac off in a fight with Crawford.
     
  6. winning

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    Why should Pacquiao have even fought Marquez in the first place? A man concerned with low risk and max reward wouldn't have even fought him.

    In 2004 Pacquiao gave Marquez a title shot. And nobody even knew who the hell Marquez was and he was an elite. The best of the best.
     
  7. winning

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    It's not just giving Marquez a rematch. It's fighting a prime Marquez even at all.

    What sane man would fight an excellent unknown boxer-puncher like Marquez? Immediately after the Barrera fight too?
     
  8. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. Now a days it seems like, after a single tough fight, it's back to an easy gimme before looking for another tough fight. :-(
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    ......and Pacquiao wouldn't have given Marquez a 3rd fight had he not run out of welterweights to fight.

    You got to remember that Marquez was chosen for that third fight after Marquez looked ordinary and simply out of place at 147 lbs fighting Mayweather.
    At this point they now thought Marquez was easy pickings.

    Those factors and the fact there was history there between the fighters guaranteed the matchup would do big PPV numbers which it did.

    The stars were aligned and the perfect opportunity to display "oh how Manny has improved since Marquez had twice beaten him previously."

    Be real, team Pacquiao thought Marquez for that 3rd fight was easy pickings. :lol:

    We now know how wrong they were! :D

    Juan Manuel Marquez = LEGEND! :deal
     
  10. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    yeah yer right...you have a great point....why would anyone fight anyone? im sure yer in the "why would ggg fight ward" camp too.....just dont take any risk! only reward and then tip the scales in your favor! the only way to live!
     
  11. The Shockmaster

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    same thing i said...and correct!
     
  12. winning

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    Partly agree. Now a days it seems like there only thing there is are gimme fights.
     
  13. winning

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    Well that's how most fighters operate these days. So yea.
     
  14. winning

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    Marquez should be grateful for ever receiving a title shot in the first place from Pacquiao. Let alone 4 of them. Given the talent of Marquez and his relative obscurity and lack of popularity before fighting Pacquiao.

    Look I'm a huge Marquez fan and Pac fan. But Marquez and his fans ought to at least show Pacquiao the respect he deserves for giving Marquez his chance. That was much more than Hamed could ever do.
     
  15. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Manny wasn't doing Juan any favors... lol

    He couldn't walk around anywhere without peeps asking him about Juan, Everyone knew who won all those fights.

    Glad that Manny did that 4th "Favor" for JMM to end this chapter.