Roach : "Everyone wants to see Pac vs Mayweather, that fight has to happen"

Nah nah nah ignoramous . . . you just refuse to use your barin and decided just to leave it on PBF's nuts.

Pac is taking care of all his contracts out of the ring and he is earning millions of $.

So what if Arum is earning 27% from the fights . . . Pac is getting more on the exclusive TV rights. :yep

Worst deal? That's ther reason why GBP LOST their hold on PAC. :deal

Think genius! :hi:

 

Oh I know that and remember mentioning it to these idiots before. Look man, this whole Margarito fiasco was a joke from the start. It was nothing but a new "Vivian Harris" in a new weight, anyone with brains knows that. Arum was hyping one guy in his stable through another guy he promoted, that's what promoters do and Arum does it best, people who follow the sport closely and with open minds can easily see through this.

If Pac leaves Arum watch for Pac to be the biggest ducker in history too, that's how these guys do things, it's NOTHING new in the sport and no matter how old that method is it works fine.

A good classic example is how Arum was promoting Hearns before he fought Leonard. Hearns was literally known as the "most feared man" back then and the way Arum carried that it made the Leonard/Hearns fight FAR bigger than people expected it to be. Leonard was also looking at as a ducker who's scared to death from the bigger/stronger/faster Hearns as they put it even though BOTH Dundee and Leonard openly stated they WILL fight Hearns when he gets some more wins and becomes more popular or as popular as Duran. Did the fight happen in the end?, the answer obvious.

 

What were you smoking . . . not me.

What's the connection?

 

Arum had options on Pac before the Morales fight and Pacquiao leaving Murad Muhammad opened doors for them to join Arum who had Morales in his stable to offer if Pacquiao wanted a rematch and we all know how badly he wanted it to avenge the loss.

 

What connection?, lay off the personal insults please and answer my question. I could care less if you think this poster is my sister, father, brother or grandmother.

Answer my questions please.

 

No . . . you read that and tell me what's the connection. I was the one asking before you came in.

Floyd didn't retire? Then was paying JMM to step aside . . . who posted that?

And the insult didn't start from me. :yep

 

He meant he's small compared to the other options (Cotto) not compared to Pac. It's hard to believe you could miss that.

 

That's right Arum has option on Pac and GBP tried to snatch Pac from Top Rank by meeting him in the airport and making him sign a contract, and Pac agreed to stick to Arum . . . provided Top Rank gives him the exclusive rights for TV rights in Asia which gives Pacquiao an additonal $ 6 to 8 Mil every fight.

So don't ****i'n tell me that's a bad deal. Considering Pac is not gonna pay U.S. taxes for that.

Where are you brain people. atsch :yep

 

I didn't insult, just asking you simple questions.

Floyd didn't retire then was paying JMM to step aside?, I don't understand your point/question here.

Mayweather did retire and you mentioned a list of fighters he "ducked" when he retired completely/clearly ignoring facts surrounding these guys.

 

I'm not the one arguing who's promoting Pac, my posts have zero questions regarding that, I asked you different questions regarding different situations.

Being with Arum or not isn't a big deal unless Arum completely ruins a fight with Mayweather and Pac's team already hinted they will leave him if he ruins that fight.

You might as well be objective if you want to criticize Mayweather. If Mayweather asks for 50% then he's an ******* who is ruining the fight yet you completely ignore the fact that Pacquiao is asking for 50% too so logically BOTH fall in the same "greedy" category.

 

What facts surrounding what guys? Fact is Margarito was a champion undefeated at welter weight in a decade he was the first biggest offer Floyd has ever got, and Floyd took the easier payday with Baldimor there is no facts surrounding nothing, you can bring up that Linear title ****, you can say Baldimor was the true champ etc... But the point is he took the easier fight, now bring up the WBC and linear ****, had margarito held the WBC and was the linear champ he would have still fought baldimor.

 

Easier or not, Baldomir was the #1 Welterweight at the time. Margarito was an unknown who's biggest win was Kermit Cintron on ESPN, those are facts you want to ignore. Margarito was looked at as nothing but another hypejob after the Vivian Harris fail train the media carried at Jr. Welterweight. Mayweather's move to Welterweight was for Zab Judah's WBC/WBA/IBF unified titles in a fight which the public BADLY wanted back then. Baldomir beat him so he took his spot. Where was Margarito when the division was unified since 2001?, guys like DLH, Mosley, Forrest, Mayorga, Spinks and Judah?, you want to tell me his WBOgus which is a paper title he won beating another guy for the VACANT belt is better than unified champions?

The Baldomir fight offered him the WBC title, #1 spot, lineal title and same money a Margarito fight offered. Hell, the Margarito fight wasn't for $8million either, it was for $7million. What's the better fight?, a win over a hypejob for a paper title or a win over the #1 fighter?. Didn't people go berserk when Mayweather fought Gatti at 140 because it was a paper title?. What makes you think the same won't be said regarding an unproven paper champion in Margarito?

And when I refer to "facts" it's regarding the time when Mayweather retired since that's what Psychopath brought up. Margarito was coming off a loss back then.

By the way, Margarito wasn't undefeated at welterweight, lay off the crack pipe. The man had 3 losses there and one loss was against Rodney Jones who remained active all the way to 2007. Margarito didn't bother and call him out to avenge a loss, if Mayweather was in that position people would **** on him.

 

No the insult is not from you . . . it's from the other guy.

I was mentioning that floyd retired instead of fighting welters and that stupid **** replied that PBF didn't retire because of those punching bags . . . and that PBF was offering JMM to step aside for a Pac fight.

So . . . I was asking him what's the connection . . . and you were asking me the sme question.

Clear?

 

The problem is . . . you tried to join the fray when I'm answering the bullcraps fo your stupid friend.

He was questioing why Pac can't leave Arum and promote himself. :deal

Nah . . . PBF is an ******* for wanting more than 50%. Isn't it clear that he said . . . Pac won't get 50% fighting him?

 

Actually looking back at it. Baldo was a tougher fight for PBF than Margo would have been. Baldo is more skilled and has a beetter chin I would pick Baldo to beat Margo anyday of the week. Not to mention he doesn't cheat. PBF fought the better fighter and champ in Baldo and got more money as well.