Roach: "Hopkins Never Told Me What Went Wrong In The Calzaghe Fight"

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  1. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    The choice he made to fight Roy Jones Jr has nothing to do with fear...just money.

    Joe Calzaghe is a freak...he has already surpassed what was expected of him and has, in his mind, already satisfied his harshest critics.

    Boxing critics demanded that he fight undefeated, American favorite Jeff Lacy...he took the fight and dominated him in one of the greatest boxing clinics I have ever seen.

    Boxing critics then demanded that in order to be named as the true Supermid Champ, you must now fight undefeated Mikkel Kessler...he took the fight and dominated him in a boxing masterclass.

    Boxing critics then demanded that he fight on American soil against future HOF Bernard Hopkins...he took the fight and and won, landing more punches against B-hop than any other fighter.

    Now boxing critics are demanding the Kelly Pavlik fight...when does it end?

    Calzaghe realizes that it will never end regardless of how impressive his competition and performances are.

    The main reason why he split with Frank Warren is all about money...nothing else.

    He has already cemented his legacy as the greatest Super Middleweight fighter of all time.

    Considering his career achievements, do you honestly think that he would be afraid of someone who almost got knocked out by Jermain Taylor?

    And you have the nerve to say that my comment was dumb?

    Get a clue!!
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I can't agree. Hopkins went tit for tat with Winky Wright in a highly active contest for both fighters, sometimes out-throwing Wright by 3-1 and 4-1, and had zero problems. Hopkins wasted excess energy in the Calzaghe fight by jerking his body all over the place in the corners, rolling, and trying to anticipate Calzaghe's movements, using his legs. If Hopkins had gone punch for punch with Calzaghe he might have knocked him out as Roach has suggested.
     
  3. RealIzm

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    I've got facts bro...your post was dumb but not as dumb as the above....you obviously havent read your heros book!!!....check it out...you'll then realize what you are saying is nothing more than bull****...The self contradictions by Joe are well documented via interviews and his book....shall I post the vids so you can somehow come up with some nuthugging feebile argument?
    Get a clue
     
  4. link2296

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    Regardless of what might have been floating through Calzaghe's mind throughout his career is completely irrelevent. It doesn't change or cheapen his career achievements. Did I post anything that wasn't factual or true? Did he not fight all of the fights I mentioned. Did he not accomplish everything that was demanded of him?

    Please educate me as I am an ignorant poster!! Please!!
     
  5. The Prophet

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    Wright is hardly as active as JC. Wright's also not a natural LH (or 170) so the clinches probably weren't as draining. JC puts on an insane amount of pressure which is the main reason he wins. He also has underestimated sneaky power (ask Kessler) because he mixes up his power shots with all of those little pitter patter quick punches, which Winky does not have and I'm sure BHop was aware of. There's no way that Hopkins would ever go punch for punch with Calzaghe. He's not a 100 punch a round guy, never has been. And I guarantee you that if someone throws that much more than he's accustomed to, by the 5th round his punches are definitely not going to have the same kind of pop on them.
     
  6. RealIzm

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    I'm sure you're not an ignorant poster in general but on the current topic yes..You're asking me to explain the obvious to you which isnt necessary as you should know it well by now...you've merely chosen to look at the obvious in a warped and biased view...Oddly and you may not believe it but I do like Joe(I even bought his book:)) I just wish he did more with his career hence he did NOT do all that was demanded of him....He's fought 1 prime fighter in Kessler and beat him well....He wanted to avoid Lacy but was convinced to go through with the fight...and that was a masterful asswhooping he put on him....but if we dare to forget about the hype for a moment Lacy looked like **** BEFORE Joe and has looked like **** ever since.....Lacy was more on par with the shot Eubank in terms of credibile victory...
    Joe is a great fighter but again he lacked the confidence and promoter to get him the best fights possible....believe it or not he lacked confidence.....Joe has had a morbid facination with retaining that overrated "0", which no doubt has kept him from potential dangerous matchups......Do you need the ducking history with Glen Johnson?
     
  7. pugilist64

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    Hopkins was in the ring with a master fighter. He went the same way as all the rest.
     
  8. pugilist64

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    Bang on the money link. :good
     
  9. RealIzm

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    :patsch let the blind nuthuggery begin:hi:
     
  10. link2296

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    I did know that he initially didn't want to fight Jeff lacy...he, along with the rest of the world, bought into the hype that Jeff lacy was the next Mike tyson.

    I do realize that he has shown a lack of confidence in his past, but he has fought enough fights to gain the respect of the boxing public and his harshest boxing critics. Despite his persona in interviews, he is a very humble person.

    Again, does any of this matter? Does this deface any of his accomplishments?

    How can dictating the facts be construed as ignorance?

    How did I put a "spin" on actual events and truths?

    Any fighter can call out a Champion with the hope of baiting him into a big money fight. Because Calzaghe refuses to fight everyone who calls him out, does it necessarily mean that he fears them or is ducking them?

    There is nothing you can post that will merit your argument due to the fact that it is your opinion and nothing more.
     
  11. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    What are we talking about here? On paper??? Watch both fights again, particularly Hopkins/Wright - then tell me that. Winky put tremendous, unrelenting pressure on, thoughout. This doesn't work for me as an argument. ^
     
  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    LOL, right... :rofl
     
  13. RealIzm

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    I didnt know we were arguing...I thought we were sharing opinions....fact is
    Joe called out Pavlik then renegged chasing a fight with Jones
    Joe ducked Johnson...a well known fact
    Fact is when you look at what Joe has done you're forced to imagine what else he couldve done and who else he could've fought(in their prime preferably)
    This is why after he called out Pavlik then renegged even the most ardent(but sensibile)fans of Joe(including myself) were furious.....its an utter conundrum of the highest order.......now people have settled in with the hype and are happy saying well Joe just wants money....as if hes been waiting for a big money fight:nut He's filthy ****ing rich...its time he proved himself against a prime body besides Kessler. And by Joes fans standard Kelly would've been easy pickings and wouldve surely solidified his legacy......beating 1 prime fighter and 2 old men doesnt cut it sorry
     
  14. IrnBruMan

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    "What went wrong in the Calzaghe fight?" :lol:

    He came up against a bloke who wouldn't let him have his own way in the ring, that's what went wrong :nut
     
  15. pugilist64

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    45-0 32 KO`s 21 title defences,2 weight world champion. The facts speak for themselves. JC = legend :hi: