Roach "I still want to see Pacquiao fight mayweather 100% healthy "

Oh we get...PAC slipped a punch and countered one right on Fliud jaw.

Fluidmos: Good shot by Floyd

 

Provide ****ysis or log off you know nothing Pac****.:hi: You can't debate boxing with me:nono my knowledge of the sweet science far exceeds yours, so stay in your lane and stick to troll one liners because that's all you can do.:deal

 

Seriously Roach, gtfoh.

 

I already watch the slow mo ****ytical breakdown of the fights from various sources such as precise presenter, what gets me is that there is zero videos out there of similar depth arguing in fluids favour, proving that you fluid fans cant really prove fluid won.

Boxing is the hurt business, which is why in the 10 point must system, hard effective clean punching is counted.. Close examination shows pac did more of that than floyd, as well as being the effective aggressor. Pac did better counterpunching here than fluid ever did in his career. Fluids defence also wasnt too hot, pac actually did better defensively by slipping under and away a lot of floyds touchy punches. Pac negated fluids check left paw slap(hook). Also pac cornered him and got through his overrated defensive shell easily. fluids longer reach didnt negate pacs attacks, pac imposed domination while floyd gave up positions. Pac was the general while floyd was the retreating opponent in survival mode.

Pac won that boxing match with one arm denied painkiller, while floyd had to ped up, use iv to hide it, numb himself to hell with xylocaine, and still had to get a judge or 3 to cover his loss.

Ydksab, and until u show me me a vid or argument similar in depth to the one presented by precise presenter etc, then i accept your concession.

 

You have got to be kidding. I know it is hard for you to accept but Pac officially lost and no amount of rationalization will change that fact. I guess in your eyes Marquez didn't win the fourth fight because he didn't prove he wasn't on peds. You really need to move on. This level of denial is not a good look.

 

I appreciated that marquez won with that ko, but i also knew full well that pac was clearly beating him before that punch.

No amount of rationalization can change the fact fluid fans are in denial, the iv scandal, the t/e ratios and the clear slow mo vid ****ysis exposing bias commentary and fluids shoddy fighting against an ouput impaired effectively one armed pac.

All fluid fans can do is resort to appeal to numbers, appeal to authority, ad hominen, and not actual arguments.

 

Too bad for you no one thought #48 won other than know nothing Pac****s like yourself. Even HBO lap dog Max Kellerman laughed in #48's face after the fight when he thought he had won.:rofl The fight wasn't close at all #48 was never in the fight and looked amateurish at times I gave him 3 rounds. Hell even when he through a flurry he landed nothing of note and #48 realized this and backed off because he realized it was in vain. That's how PBF minded ****ed him. This is chess not checkers troll. #48 was in with a master that night.

PBF controlled the fight #48 looked lost and dejected from round one on. The second half of the fight was a wipe out for PBF. The fight was fought at PBF's pace and not #48s period, that's called ring generalship something you know nothing about, that wins fights and it won this one. #48 was held to a career low workrate and connect % how in the hell can you say he won when he was outlanded and outworked and fought PBF's fight?

There's a reason why no one wants to see the rematch because they realize that #48 can't beat PBF he's too good and too complete. #48 will never be able to force his style of fight against PBF. PBF can clinch #48 BTW something you Pac****s said he wouldn't be able to do and disrupt him. #48 will never be able to cut the ring off develop a jab or make the necessary on the fly adjustments nor does he have the size or style, he isn't dirty enough which is needed to trouble PBF. He also can only fight at one range can't fight on the inside and lacks a overhand right. Hell Maidana stylistically is a harder match up for PBF than #48 is and it showed when they fought.:deal Like I always said you don't go life and death with JMM for 4 fights and beat PBF period.:deal Astute boxing fans like myself already knew this going in but wishful thinkers excuse makers and know nothing Pac****s like yourself didn't and are still bitter today because of it. And like I said earlier continue to hold this L forever.:hi:

 

I'm not sure if Floyd is going to fight Pac again, but no way is he not going to fight at least once more. That 50-0 record looms to close for him not to go for it.

 

Pac lost no doubt about that, but at the same time, Floyd had an injured fighter in the ring and couldn't stop him, so as far as I'm concerned it was a pretty ****py fight.

 

Pacquiao's TOO OLD to ever be 100% healthy again.
He's 37 years old in a few weeks time. That's ancient for a lower weight class pressure fighter who's been fighting be men and been knocked out 3 times !
Roach might as well dream about himself being 100% healthy and fighting Mayweather.

If a rematch happens the most anyone can hope for is that the two OLD GEEZERS make a fight of it this time.

 

How "injured" was Pac? I couldn't tell from what transpired in the ring. He certainly wasn't favoring one arm over the other. If he was "injured" enough to have an impact on the fight then he shouldn't have fought. This "injury" excuse after the fact just makes a bad fight stink worse.

 

I agree, I for one felt extremely ripped off, assuming he was injured. I'm not sure of the validity of the injury claim, but I know I expected him to be pressure Floyd much more than he did. Whenever he got in the inside he would let his hands go for a few seconds, which clearly gave Floyd problems, than just stop for some unknown reason.

 

Haha what a bunch of bull. Ring generalship isnt just about controlling pace, its about imposing will and controlling your opponent. Anyone can run a distance from an opponent and claim theyre controlling pace by not goin in. Pac got in and got through, no amount of head shaking fluid does will convince me he didnt get hit and hit a lot by pacs flurries.

Yeah pac isnt dirty as fluid. U got that right. Fluids excessive cinching, below the waistline ducking, arm pulling, kitty kat slaps that were counted, and above all his ped/dopin use, maskin it with 750ml IV, and numbing himself with xylocaine .. Haha..and fluid still lost

 

The moment when PAC fans realize he uses xylocaine too. Check his Disclosure form, the same one that he said he was injury free on

 

What's really interesting is that if Pac won the rematch, would everyone say that he was definitely the best fighter of his generation?