Roach: If Pacquiao wins, we want Marquez five

Because facts like that serves no purpose. Its like Matthew Hatton beating 10 bums in a row, and Golovkin losing to Froch and Ward twice in a row, and you come out with a fact like Hatton beats GGG because GGG lost twice in a row and Hatton won 10 in a row. Its dumb and that's how simpleton logic works.

Hasim Rahman KTFO Lewis first fight. Hurr durr argument would say Rahman KTFO Lewis therefore KTFO Lewis in rematch, unable to analyse the fight beyond simple numbers and results.

And here is the reason why I think Pac was dominating the fight, based on what I saw in the fight and not just overall result. JMM edged the first round, but Pac won 2nd round clearly, he would have also won 3rd round clearly had it not been for KD, he won 4th and 5th round clearly, and would have won 6th round clearly too. I have never seen that in any of their previous fights. Of course at the time I didn't think JMM had KO power to stop Pac, so I was under the assumption that JMM had to outbox Pac to win, but seeing as Pac was the one doing the outboxing, and the one with the perceived KO power, then JMM was in big trouble.

Like I said, if JMM was so sure he can beat Pac in 5th fight, he would have taken that 13mil in a heartbeat. By far his biggest payday.

 

WTF:rofl

You're killing yourself with your own "LOGIC":hi:

 

Guerrero had two wins at WW including a very impressive win over Berto. Rios is coming off a loss and has never fought at WW.

 

atsch Someone is slow.

 

Rios has never beaten anyone of their caliber, and never did I say that Ortiz was a "legit threat" to Mayweather. :bart

 

YES and we all spotted it on your first post in this thread:deal

 

OK troll, I've pointed out how dumb your logic is and now hopefully you work on your logic a bit. Hurr durr, "insert random fact here" hurr durr.

 

Your praise for Guerrero comes from mainly in beating Berto because no way it can come from beating a shot Casamayor or Katsidis...surely? And you say you have no praise for Ortiz but Ortiz beat Berto, as did Karass. It seems Berto was a preresiquite for a fight with Floyd, but the guy is a C class fighter.

But I agree, Guerrero is a better fighter than Rios, and would probably outbox Rios.

 

After Pacquiao beats Rios, I want to see Pacquiao-Mayweather.

 

No Marquez will not take a 5th one, he wants people to remember the 4th & that's that.

Best 4 fights for Pacman imo:

#1 Early 2014 Tim Bradley
#2 Late 2014 Ruslan Provodnikov
#3 Early 2015 Mikey Garcia (he will end up in 140, after he picks up 135 :yep )
#4 Late 2015 Floyd Mayweather

Of course if he loses one of the 3 or all of them , he should take a winnable fight in between.

 

jmm wont fight pac ever...unless he gets 20m, he knows hes gonna get beat and will just cash out...so forget it....

pac fights bradley next if he gets past rios.....

 

The man wants to step in the ring a 5th time with his kryptonite and after getting KTFO in their last outing. Give the man some respect, the hate on this board is just childish.

 

This is JMM's face when he stopped Pac:

http://jobus-rum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Game_Over_for_the_Pac_Man_Marquez_570x300.jpg

Please tell me again if a man with that broken of a face is not getting dominated.
And for comparison, this is Pac's, shortly after waking up:

http://i0.wp.com/www.boxingnews24.com/wp-content/uploads/pac51.jpg?resize=352,250

Notice who is receiving more damage?

 

Neither were legit threats, but both had at least fought at the weight before, had good wins there and weren't coming off a loss.

 

Pacquiao didn't win the fourth round.