Roach knows how to beat the philly shell

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah but again you can't extrapolate your conclusion from those facts.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roach did'nt coach Toney. Toney coaches himself. He just hired Roach to have a gym and surroundings so that he could train.
    Toney has forgotten more about boxing than Roach will ever know.
     
  3. Ian_k

    Ian_k Active Member Full Member

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    I think the strategy he used to box clotey may come into play
    I know floyds defence isn't the same, but pac was ripping into clotey with hard deep body shots to create openings. And pac isn't known for body punching
     
  4. Beast-Mode

    Beast-Mode Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao never really committed to that. He went downstairs occasionally but Clottey's hands remained high. Which is why that fight was a disappointment. Had PAC really dug into the body instead head hunting maybe we would have seen a good fight.
     
  5. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    There is a reason why roach wanted the fight back in 08 and Floyd didnt.

    Roach
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    How many times has Freddie Roach been named "Trainer of the Year" ?? Who was Freddie's mentor?? Eddie Papa Smurf Futch one of the greatest all time trainers. If Toney knew & cared about boxing he'd have taken better care of himself
     
  8. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very true. Maidana fights a particular style that Mayweather has usually been successful with in the past. Flat-footed, heavy handed, slow punching, huge pressure fighter. It's true that Maidana has an awkward over-hand right, but this is Floyd Mayweather we're talking about. That shouldn't be enough to cause Floyd Mayweather problems.

    This is what worries me. Idk if the Maidana Floyd or if the Canelo Floyd will show up in the ring. That's why it's impossible for me to make a prediction.
     
  9. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea because the only way one of the greatest defensive fighters ever can defend himself is by rolling his shoulder. He doesnt have great understanding of distance, cant parry, catch or slip. Has terrible footwork aswell.
     
  10. closedguard

    closedguard Active Member Full Member

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    Well I know Freddys strategy Freddie told me that Mayweather's body is wide open.
     
  11. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Body shots will be important for Pac to slow him down and more. Pacquiao can use the jab to the body and right hook to the chin. He used it a lot against Algieri, and it was surprisingly effective. I believe Marquez mentioned this as a good combination as well.
     
  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    The fact that Toney accomplished what he did coming to fights out of shape goes to show you how good his boxing pedigree was.

    Trainer of the year is as much political as any other award given in boxing.

    Being Futch's assistant does'nt make Roach Eddie Futch.
     
  13. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    floyd can't shell up when pac comes in to attack. pac will be throwing 4-6 punch combo everytime if he does that.

    he will either have to go toe to toe (like jmm) or run.
     
  14. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Play fight night much? Floyd uses more of the high guard against south paws. I swear some of you don't even really watch the fights and just come on here and run your **** suckers.
     
  15. Sweet Jones

    Sweet Jones Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like the ana!ogy. :good