Roach knows of two of his fighters who tested positive for PEDs

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  1. Rapid

    Rapid Member Full Member

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    DALLAS – Freddie Roach, the trainer of Manny Pacquiao, said he has worked with two fighters who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs but takes precautions so it won’t creep into his gym in Hollywood, Calif.

    Roach said one of his former fighters, ****** Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

    “I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

    “… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, ****** Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

    Roach repeated for the umpteenth time, however, that Pacquiao is clean. He said he talked to Pacquiao after unsubstantiated allegations by Floyd Mayweather Sr. and others became public.

    “I said, ‘Manny, do you know what steroids are?’” Roach said. “He knows so little about steroids. He knows less than I do.”

    Is there a chance Pacquiao took an illegal substance by accident, perhaps consuming something with which he was unfamiliar?

    “Why would you think that?” he said. “Manny gets tested after every fight and has never come up dirty. Without evidence, that’s a bad assumption.”

    Roach also has discussed PEDs with strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza, who works with Pacquiao.

    “A hundred percent,” he said. “That’s the first guy I went to. … Alex is a friend of mine and he works with me. My reputation is on the line with him. He assures me 100 percent that there’s nothing out there.”

    Pacquiao fights Joshua Clottey on Saturday at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

    http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1721/roach_knows_of_two_of_his_fighters_who_tested_positive_for_peds/
     
    Rapid, Mar 12, 2010
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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    very honest

    or at least it seems that way.
     
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  3. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopefully Pac is clean. But the fact that he hasn't tested dirty proves nothing because its already been shown that the dirty fighters can test negative. But nonetheless despite how suspicious his actions and statements may be, he is entitled to a presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

    The whole purpose of more stringent testing, is to act as a deterrent to any possible cheating, and to catch any should it occur. This insures the integrity of the fight.
     
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  4. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Strange that Roach two former fighters tested positive for steriods but he's scared to let Pacquiao take one blood test? lol. It's still strange that Pacquiao said "he don't know what steriods look like." <<<<If thats the case then Alex can give Pacquiao steriods without Pacquiao knowing.
     
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  5. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Its called back peddling corns that talk out of their ass. Are you idiots listening to these mofos... I mean if you believe these no sense making idiots than you are just a gump.
     
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  6. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He knows Manny is clean, goes into the press saying Manny can take Olympic drug tests, then back pedals with a million reasons not to drug test, and kills the fight.

    Right Freddy. Right...
     
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  7. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I don't believe Manny is on steroids.... But I don't believe Roach when he acts like he knows nothing about them.
     
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  8. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Clean folk dont do that.
     
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  9. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    pac's clean. he doesn't need to be the first to set a precedent for clean non positive steroid PED tests.
     
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  10. Think

    Think The Sport Of Kings Full Member

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    This **** is getting old...
     
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  11. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Yeah he's clean but not getting tested while in training... where he would use the steroids. Better yet, he pulled out of a fight to not take a test that would prove he is clean and decided to sue like a cheater and a ***** would. You come from a ******* world where all that **** makes sense. Dickhead.
     
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  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Every time it dies Team Pac is back in the press putting their feet in their mouths! :-(
     
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  13. Toopretty

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    Dirty ass feet too.
     
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  14. GrCh

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    The only problem I have with the whole "Pac is tested before and after every fight" is that so was Shane Mosley, and he never came up dirty. Boxing's tests seem to be inadequate
     
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  15. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Explains why he and pac took photos with Julio Cesar jr who was recently suspened due to band substance ????? all druggys hang together
     
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