Roach knows of two of his fighters who tested positive for PEDs

yup...seems honest enough and that should be all that matters...seeming honest.

that's what they always say about serial killers and babysitters.... seemed so nice.

roach: I can't believe they would dare mention steroids around me....
reporter: have you ever been linked to any fighters doing steroids..
roach: yes... 2 that i know of
roach: manny...do you know what steroids are?
manny: no..uhhh uhhhh...what this is?
roach: ok...good...just checking for the media... steroids are bad ok?
manny: yes...bery bery bad

 

That guy is going to be great politician.

 

If you were being prosecuted for a crime that you did not commit and the DA offered you a lie detector test, wouldn't you take it?

One would have to be a ******* or completely ignorant to believe their excuses. Pac took a blood test 14 days before this fight and you can guarantee it will be anonymously tested for PED's which he is not going to be taking for this fight, if he is taking it at all. The same 14 days May wanted. Right now, he is under a microscope.

-700 Paq is crazy. I wouldn't take him at -300. If Clottey can land that straight right in the first round and Paq was indeed on PED's for his last three fights and not this fight, Paq is in for a long brutal night.

 

Baseless accusations. But i think its a given here in ESB. If a crackhead said that jumping off a bridge without a line wont kill you, there'll be fewer posts here the next day.

 

:rofl Baseless my ass. You dumb son of pac-*****. If you agree to a roid test and back out of a fight of the decade b/c you feel you are clean and dont need to prove it via proving it and not just talking out of your ugly ass... then you will raise a few eyebrows. We all seen Marquez drink ****.. We all seen this clown head get bigger and look the roid part. We all seen the Ariza dude come in camp and say "pac dont know what he take, I give him everything he takes" So unless he is lying, which would make him a liar.. I take Pac's word for **** b/c he dont know what he takes and he is half ******ed anyway b/c he could be getting ass shots and not know they were roids "b/c I no know wut a stewoid wook wike"

 

Yup

 

If the person trying to prosecute me wasn't the DA, but a potential business partner, I'd tell him to go **** himself. Especially if I had other options and no economic need to comply.

 

not just business.... it's pride and history being written

 

I am very proud of my 820 FICO score. If a guy I was thinking about doing business with would not show me his FICO..."I'd tell him to go **** himself."

 

Do you really think Roach is even going to say or admit any such thing when this is where his money comes from.... get ****ing real Roach knew James Toney was juicing they all did prior to him getting caught ......

 

Pride and history...that's what fans worry about.

Promoters are the puppetmasters who pull the strings of the sport backstage, and their worries are purely business and politics.

That relationship is crucial to remember because the balancing act of the two is what determines what fights get made and what don't. The best fight in boxing isn't going to happen simply because the politics involved won't add up regardless of how immense the payday and legacy gained would be for all involved.

 

There is no question in my mind that Ariza is a dirty mother****er. He just hasn't been caught yet.

 

You should be, that's a great score. :thumbsup

What you're also saying is that you'd be OK with someone complying to the current standards in place, and if he showed you an acceptable FICO score, you'd be OK with that.

You likely wouldn't then go to FICO and tell them their testing wasn't good enough because you can't believe that the prospective partner has just as good a score. It'd be wiser to partner up, and make some serious money in the process.

Metaphors aside, that's why I still hold an outside hope that the money involved will simply be too large for the politics to stop the fight from happening. Not holding my breath, but what's happening is doing nothing but adding to the interest in the fight and making it even bigger. Eventually I hope that tips the scales into Pac-Floyd going down.

 

Too much risk. Either May or Paq could lose and it's over. This never happened in boxing before other than maybe Bowe/Lewis but even that wasn't of this magnitude. If Paq was on PED's he won't be for this fight as they drew blood. I lost on Clottey+260 against Cotto. He couldn't close the show and that's why Roach picked this fight. Clottey is at +475 at the Caliente Sports book here in Mexico and I might put a large bet on Clottey. It's hard for me to get past that Cotto fight. He had that fight. He just didn't have the "kill or be killed" attitude.

 

I can't say I'd feel comfortable with laying down significant cash on Clottey even at +475 because the guy seems to do just enough to not win, and that kind of tendency is pure poison for a man who's always the visiting fighter and not likely to get any favors done on his behalf anyways. He's got to give 110% to win those fights, not 90% because the breaks just aren't going to go his way, realistically speaking. I had wagered some cash on Clottey by decision myself in the Cotto fight, and now I'd really hesitate to bet on him in that kind of environment.

As for Pac-May, as I said, I'm not holding my breath- but I still have an outside hope that the financial stakes involved can get even higher to reach a tipping point to make the risk worth it. Here's hoping. :good