Roach "Manny would knock Marquez out In 3"

mosley comes in @160 during fights. he is too big for pac, much more for jmm. but jmm can certainly try.

 

you certainly make a good point here. :think

 

I have a different opinion of Mosely than most.......I think he's at the stage that Roberto Duran was at when he was in his mid to late 30's......he looks phenominal against fighters there to be hit, but less than average against fighters that can box at a high level.

Even during those Fernando Vargas fights, when Vargas gave him angles and some movement, Mosely had trouble with that.....
.....Mosely's workrate dropped dramatically in the late rounds vs Cotto when Cotto turned to running........

My opinion of Mosely is that like Duran at that stage in his career, he does'nt have the legs to chase or Manuever anymore......I believe both JMM and Pac will beat Mosely if Mosely is made to come down to 145 lbs.

 

What should he say then, when being asked by reporters before the fight?

Some people said that he poisoned Manny's mind and convinced him to accept the ODLH fight for the big 10% trainer's cut of the purse, and he's just doing it for the money.

What was he supposed to say when he's asked "Why accept this fight?"

Should he just say "It's a secret. I cant tell."

I think what he's doing is kinda like what Penn and Teller does in their magic shows. They show people how it's actually done, they take away the mystery of it but make it still entertaining. And they share what they know to the people, and it's very interesting and educational.

 

'JMM is a true great and he's too smart to get knocked out that early.'

He got knocked down 3 times in the first round. With Manny taking his power up in weight he would NOT GET GETTING UP.

No doubt Manny would destroy him. Just like he destroyed Morales in their rematches.

 

Originally Posted by Farmboxer View Post
Roach could be right, but he lost to Marquez two times.
Quoted for truth. ****ing judges..

The judges misscored the first round. Manny would have won if they'd given him the correct score for the 3 knockdowns.

 

And it seems they misscored the entire second fight by giving pacman the win.

 

Roach saying things even after the fight to the effect that he knew his fighter would destroy Hatton because he is one dimensional and only knows one way to fight, is diminishing the accomplishment of Pacquiao......

Now he's saying that Pac knocks out Marquez in 3?
Is Roach going to say that Marquez is now turned into a slow one dimensional old geezer????

What derogatory statement is Roach going to say of Marquez to justify his statement of Pac KO 3 JMM???
.....remembering that his knockout of Hatton was to an amatuerish only know one way to fight Ricky Hatton.


My friend, there is a time to speak up, and a time to STFU, right now in regards to JMM, Roach should keep quiet until at least he see's what tranpires in the Mayweather fight........


.......or could it be that Roach may be Jealous that it is JMM who landed the Mayweather fight first?:think

 

This is not a pre-fight hype statement. Roach knows his fighter more than anyone else so saying Pac being a different fighter than their 2 prior fights must have validity, I mean it's for all to see. JMM is not a stupid fighter though, he will adapt to Pac's newer style. But too much weight gain plus age won't be in JMM's favor, add to that Pac carried his power and speed from 122. I voted no but believe if JMM was there on May 2 instead of Hatton he will be stopped in the later rounds.

 

divac:

I can agree that that "JMM TKO in 3" wasnt the best way to go at it, but I have no problems at all with Roach dissecting their strategies in public after the fight. Even if he doesnt discuss those strategies in detail, some people will still not really be rooting for Manny anyways, and they will find holes and faults, diminish the magnitude of that win, and the fighter that got dominated.

Manny knows he was the one who executed those strategies. He is the star, whatever tactics their team had cooked up.

 

The more Pac uses his right hand in conjunction with his left, the more he gives JMM the opportunity to counter.

When Pac was just using his left, at least he knew that it was JMM's straigh right heading his way......he could brace to withstand it.......

......but along with Pac using two hands, so to do the countering opportunities and angle of shots increase for JMM.......
What it comes down to is this......the more variables thrown into the equation, the more it benefits the technical master, because he's the one more adept at making the adjustments at the spur of the moment.


Roach preached about how he had Pac repititiously throwing the right hook over a left hook.......because he knew that Hatton does it all the time, and then does'nt adjust when its getting countered.......

Hatton could'nt make an adjustment to what Pacquiao had practiced against him in the ring.....what would have happened if Hatton had made that adjustment, what would Pac have turned too??????
We dont know, because Pac never had to make any adjustments in either of his fights since JMM......


......you cant have Pac doing repititious things like that in the gym getting ready for JMM, because Marquez unlike Pacquiao, has the capability to make make adjustments in the ring and not just the gym.:bbb

Pac has not graduated to calculus where he can decipher an equation with different variables involved.....so the more he opens up with different hands, the master will solve the equation, and throw back to the student an equation foreign to him!


A two fisted Pacquiao is an advantage for JMM!:yep

 

I doubt that, JMM knows what to do now. Never get into a rumble with Pac. This may sound discredit to JMM but, JMM will try to run backwards against Pac and I mean run and potshot or counter. He doesn't want to happen for the last both fights.

The question is, can Marquez bring his superior counter skills on the far north to the fullest. If he can't it could spell what Roach said.

Nacho already admitted he won't like Marquez near Pac on a higher weight class where he wouldn't need to shed muscles. They would only take the fight if they can pull Pac back to LW.

 

Anythings possible but history has shown he would probably have a harder time. Of course he did put Marquez down three times in the first so maybe he finishes the job in a sort of rubbermatch.

 

You still can't left out Marquez, he showed he can still carry his skills up but not to the fullest.

Question still remains if he can carry it far north to the fullest.

 

I think it is the other way around. Pac is no longer predictable. He can use his right and left w/ equal destructive force. At 140, he has grown stronger. As you can see in the Hatton fight, Pac feinted w/ his left and waited for Hatton to duck and then unleash his new weapon, the right hook, w/ blurring precision. Marquez should worry on the new Pac at the higher weight. :hey