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Show me that Abraham's opponents dont get blood drawn clown.


So clown, your dispute is not with the fact that Mayweather is asking for something never before asked in boxing, steroid tests are mandated in many fights, hell in Colorado you must submit a blood test before fighting, its the manner of which the test is taken? Wow,


Listen ****, I know you're gonna struggle with this, but there are alot of steroids, PED's if you will, that cant soley be detected by urine.

I know that just blew your mind.

 

Ok... so now I know that you are just a waterhead. I guess that I should have noticed that from your first post and just moved on from there. You give your blood in Nevada too... genius. It is part of a physical that all fighters pass in order to be cleared to fight in the state.

I am stating an ABSOLUTE FACT that Floyd is demanding testing never demanded by, or asked of any boxer in the history of this sport.... and your dumb ass is just talking complete nonsense.:rofl

What I am stating is a FACT. Yet... you try to dispute it by talking about a bunch of **** that has absolutely NOTHING to do with it, and does nothing to disprove the FACT that I am talking about. Hence... the reason why it was easy to figure out that you are just a waterhead.

You are asking for me too show you proof that Abraham doesn't ask for his opponents to take blood tests before their fights? What kind of moronic question is that? Why don't you show me proof that Abraham doesn't force his opponents to give him blowjobs before their fights? Can you disprove that? How can you? So... I can just claim that he forces his opponents to give him blowjobs, and if you can't disprove it... it must be correct then, right? Do have copies of his contracts on hand? Do you realize now exactly how ****ing ******ed what you just said is? I doubt it... that would be expecting way too much out of you, obviously.

 

Void wants Pac to do something that has never been done in boxing history! Why so?

Never has sex before a fight. Nobody talks about Pac agreeing to take a blood/urine test immediately after the fight! Why so?

 

Because they are too blind to understand logic. They want to use elaborate excuses such as.. but then Pac might be able to dope up for a couple weeks starting a few weeks out... then get off of it to clear his system. As if he couldn't do that for any other time period as well. I guess they won't be happy unless Pac gives blood every 3-4 hours, every day leading up to the fight. If that is what Floyd would have asked for... the same morons would be on here agreeing with him.

 

Show me proof ******. You do know what proof is? I know your tiny intellect is struggling to even comprehend the situation here, but I need proof that Abraham does not have his opponents draw blood. That no boxer in the history of the sport has been asked to be blood tested before a fight.

Maybe hearsay and half truths may work at your daddy Arums house, but not here.


Now answer the question moron. What do you have a problem with, Mayweather asking for a steroid test, or just the simple fact that Pacquiao has to give blood.


I mean I know you're slow, but do I really need to go and cut and paste the statement from the doctor in LA that clearly states that 24 days is long enough to both improve with steroids and pass a drug test, and that blood is the only way to go.

Do I really? Please just realize how utterly dumb you are and concede that your boy is running like a *****.

 

Logic is something that Void fans do not like.

A test immediately after the fight is as accurate as you can get. However, Void does not want to fight Pac for any amount of money. Void, Sr. said as much. Void is afraid and is shows.

Boxing commish does not require what Void is demanding. Void appears to be claiming the he is bigger than boxing! Well he is not. Void is boring. Pac is exciting. Pac is the big draw.

 

That doctor is wrong. Btw, I see you're busy hussling people with your bull**** Danny so I thought I'd chip in.



http://www.cyclingnews.com/editions/latest-cycling-news-july-21-2008

Following the failed doping test by Riccardo Riccò at the Tour de France, who was reported to have been using a new form of EPO called Micera, WADA spokesman Frédéric Donzé told Cyclingnews that his agency was aware of new EPOs coming onto the market.


"WADA is very much aware of the development of new EPOs and bio-similar EPOs in an expanding market," Donzé said. "A number of these new EPOs and bio similar EPOs are well known and can be detected through current tests."


Moreover, WADA's scientific director Dr Oliver Rabin said he was "reasonably confident" that any athlete using EPO at the upcoming Olympic Games in Beijing would fall foul of anti-doping controls.


"It would be very presumptuous on my part to say that we are absolutely 100 percent sure we are going to get everyone," Rabin told the BBC.

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--Basically, WADA's been studying the results of the Micera results for a year now and they know that it is detectable but needed to solidify their findings. It really surprised the cycling world when the AFLD started catching people of Micera. In case ya didn't know, Micera was just developed in 2008, its a very new 3rd/4th generation EPO enabler.

The results of the urine test showed the EPO bands but in a different place on the result sheet. They knew it was EPO at the time, but couldn't prove it. And now they can, even with urine.

 

What if this and what if that? Void has never demanded changing the rules of boxing for anyone else but Pac. Void must be very, very afraid. Blood test immediately after the fight, plus urine also. Yet, Void is still afraid.

 

So... I am now supposed to provide you proof from every fight in the history of boxing, every contract, and amendment within' those contracts in the history of boxing, ect...?

Uhmmm... wouldn't be a hell of a lot easier for you to provide me proof of one single boxing match in history where one fighter demanded that the other fighter take these blood tests leading into their fight like Mayweather is asking? Seems a bit more reasonable doesn't it? Guess what... you won't be able to do it. Which is why you keep posting bull**** nonsense over and over again. Seriously man... you're a ****ing moron. Not only will you not find any instance a fighter demanding these blood tests... you sure as hell won't see any instance where the fighter is demanding MULTIPLE blood tests, even after his opponent has given in and agreed to take 3 of them (as well as urine tests everyday). As if even one blood test after the fight... along with the NORMAL DRUG TEST THAT EVERYONE TAKES (urine)... that your dumb ass must have never known about.

3 blood tests and 60 urine tests over a 2 month span still isn't enough for Floyd to step into the ring!:rofl Of course in your world... this isn't a first, and it happens all the time.:nut

PS... I love how you avoided the rest of my entire post that showed exactly how ******ed you are.

 

Excellent point!

 

Says the dumb **** that says steroids dont help you in boxing.



http://www.cyclingnews.com/editions/latest-cycling-news-july-21-2008

Following the failed doping test by Riccardo Riccò at the Tour de France, who was reported to have been using a new form of EPO called Micera, WADA spokesman Frédéric Donzé told Cyclingnews that his agency was aware of new EPOs coming onto the market.


"WADA is very much aware of the development of new EPOs and bio-similar EPOs in an expanding market," Donzé said. "A number of these new EPOs and bio similar EPOs are well known and can be detected through current tests."


Moreover, WADA's scientific director Dr Oliver Rabin said he was "reasonably confident" that any athlete using EPO at the upcoming Olympic Games in Beijing would fall foul of anti-doping controls.


"It would be very presumptuous on my part to say that we are absolutely 100 percent sure we are going to get everyone," Rabin told the BBC.

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--Basically, WADA's been studying the results of the Micera results for a year now and they know that it is detectable but needed to solidify their findings. It really surprised the cycling world when the AFLD started catching people of Micera. In case ya didn't know, Micera was just developed in 2008, its a very new 3rd/4th generation EPO enabler.

The results of the urine test showed the EPO bands but in a different place on the result sheet. They knew it was EPO at the time, but couldn't prove it. And now they can, even with urine.[/quote]

Dr. Don H. Catlin, the head of the Los Angeles-based non-profit Anti-Doping Research, Inc., said a 24-day cutoff for blood testing is not sufficient to prevent abuse. One of the concerns with such a long blood-testing cutoff prior to the date of competition would be the potential use of Erythropoietin, or EPO.

But Catlin said that wouldn’t be the only concern if there were a 24-day cutoff imposed.

“If you have a 24-day window that’s free, with no testing, you can take whatever you want and you’re not going to get caught, end of story,” Catlin said. “[Urine testing] does matter, yes, but they’re not going to catch everything by urine testing alone. What you would do is to take Mircera [a type of EPO], which is available and which is not easy to detect in urine and away you go. You need a blood test.”




Now where in your post does it say anything about masking agents or whether then can treat this new type of EPO at all?

Isnt stll in developmental stages?


Listen you know about as much about medicine as you know about boxing. Which amounts to very little if at all. :thumbsup

 

YEs, because you are the one who first made the outlandish claim that no-one in history has been subjected to blood tests, so its on your dumbass to prove. I didnt say that ****. You did.

Pac wants scheduled tests. In a time frame that would make it so he could use and still gain advantages without being detected. As to why a blood test is required, a random one.

I know you're a snake like your daddy arum and like to avoid this part but, what do you have to say about Roach accepting the 5 day window? Do you think that even Roach knows you're boys crazy?

Basically you are saying that even though Mayweather gave Pac a 14 day window that he wont take a simple blood test because of...well what? Something thats not scientifically provable or viable?



Tell me dope, when in the history of the sport has a 10 million dollar weight penalty been granted?

Because its mostly line after line of you gargling Manny's balls. Rather get right to the point and out you for your imbecility.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl Wow, you're honestly ****in' ******ed.:rofl

 

As I thought.

 

If Pac takes any EPO products in the 3 week open window, his Hgb and Hct will be way higher after compared to his 2nd test. Traces of the EPO product might be gone from the blood but the effect will continue persist weeks after his fight is over.