Roach: "Pacquiao Is Faster And Hits Harder Than Mayweather"

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  1. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What the **** is the difference between 144 and 147 pounds...

    Mayweather won't be different because of three pounds, and Pacquiao, who would probably weigh in at 142 pounds, won't feel the difference.
     
  2. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roach understands that unlike Oscar...Mayweather could actually use the weight difference as an advantage...if they fought at 147...Mayweather will come in at 155 most likely...

    If they make the deal at 144...he'll come in at 150 or 152...that's a weight they can handle that's not TOO dramatic from 148
     
  3. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again to repeat myself...

    Roach understands that unlike Oscar...Mayweather could actually use the weight difference as an advantage...if they fought at 147...Mayweather will come in at 155 most likely...

    If they make the deal at 144...he'll come in at 150 or 152...that's a weight they can handle that's not TOO dramatic from 148
     
  4. Stezzie

    Stezzie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bull****...When Mayweather fought at 154 he still came in at 151-152...now all of the sudden he is going to come in at 155. What a moron. Mayweather comes in to fight his fight...if he founght Manny he is not going to balloon up to a weight he has never fought before so he can decrease his speed...
     
  5. heidegger

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    Those are all good points and I agree with them, but PAC is seemingly a different fighter at the higher weights. He displayed many new skills when he fought Oscar. The extra weight seems to serve him well. To me there is an X factor here and I believe he can beat Mayweather.
     
  6. Stezzie

    Stezzie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is an X factor until you start seeing Manny getting picked apart...
     
  7. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you smoking ? Pac fought a ****in corpse, it is easy to look great in a scenerio like that when absolutly nothing comes back at you..............Pac is there to be hit, there were many openings which ODH just could not pull the trigger anymore, one day my friend the same will happen to Pac. Guaranteed.

    There ain't no X factor, period,a aging Marquez counterpunched him silly and even wobbled him, imagine what a prime young ,not a shopworn Mexican with endless wars on their belt, naturally bigger Gayweather will do to him, that **** is not even funny.

    Mayweather KO Pac between 6 and 8.

    Please save this post so you can rubb it in when I was right.
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac can beat Mayweather.
     
  9. AceNguyen

    AceNguyen Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Considering that Mayweather have never weighed more than 150 on any fight night, I highly doubt he would come in at 155. What evidence do you have that Mayweather would "most likely" come in at 155? He's never come in at anything close even when fought at junior middleweight!
     
  10. heidegger

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    Oscar may well have been 'a corpse' as you say (perhaps a slight exaggeration), however I do not believe that other fighters, even elite welters, would have exposed this 'corpseness' like PAC did. I saw him do a lot of things in that fight that I've never seen him do before. His moving up in weight seems to be commensurate with him gaining new skills, how strong these new skills are and how far they will take him, that is to me the X factor. I do not know that it will take him to a level where he can beat Mayweather, but his offensive ability and styalistic adaptability in the DLH fight suggest to me a fighter that can possibly beat Mayweather. That is just my humble opinion. Yes, indeed, I will save your prediction so I can suck on it and your huge manly ***** as well when you are proved right. Because you, sir, are God. Truth.
     
  11. heidegger

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    No there is an 'X factor' that is unknown. It is unknown, because at this point, we cannot tell how much PAC will be able to improve at higher weights. It's good that you still labour under the ignorance that you can tell what a fighter will be able to do as he progresses in his career. PAC is improving and gaining new attributes as a fighter, and the future will reveal how good/different a fighter he is. He is not the same fighter that he was when he's at 140/147 as he was when he fought Marquez; just as BHop was not the same fighting Pavlik at LH as he was losing to Jermain Taylor.
     
  12. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, maybe I was a little harsh on you.........

    However, ODH did not do ONE god damn thing in that fight, except being a punching bag, hell , Danny Williams looked more competitive against VK and that was a bad beating. I admit that I thought ODH had enough in the tank to deal with Pac by imposing his will and strengh . After the weigh in I started to blow a different tune..........and during the fight I was absoluty amazed how much he had spiraled down as a fighter since the Mayweather loss, similar to the pathetic performance of SRL against the Macho man.
     
  13. aliwasthegreatest

    aliwasthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sure pac could win...anyone has the potential to win almost any fight. But my money has to go with mayweather (no pun intended). Alot of people who fight mayweather are very suprised at just how strong he is on the inside. i don't see Pac beating him up on the ropes at all. and i don't think marquez is THAT much faster than a 147 mayweather who's an excellent counter puncher as well.
     
  14. Stovepipe

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    Mayweather never separated himself from Oscar. Pac did it convincingly.
    Mayweather never fought JMM.
     
  15. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hopefully this fight is next it will be great