Roach: Pacquiao is Ready for Mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ALG United, Nov 7, 2011.


  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    emmanuel landed only 10% or 34 out of 349 of his jabs against Morales in their first fight.

    for his last 4 fights 184/1499 is about a 12% connect on the jabs

    Floyd is so good at parrying that emmanuel won't land any jab.

    most southpaws aren't jabbers, and emmanuel isn't an exception
     
  2. PBF24

    PBF24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's wouldn't able to average his usual 20+ power punches per round against Floyd either. If a lesser defensive Boxer like JMM could limited Manny's power punches per round, then so can Floyd.
     
  3. wilgen99

    wilgen99 Member Full Member

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    You're funny, dude. You're acting like precious "Gollum" to Roach. Roach says Pacquiao is ready for Mayweather, and here you are saying Roach knows Pacquiao isn't ready. :yikes
     
  4. ALG United

    ALG United Member Full Member

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    Come on, when Manny fought Morales, his jab was used mainly as a measuring stick...

    I am talking about power punches here..

    Floyd vs Mosley - Floyd's power punches landed 123, thrown 267 = 46%, Mosley's power punches landed 46, thrown 169 = 27%

    Manny vs Mosley - Manny's power punches landed 177, thrown 353 = 50%, Mosley's power punches landed 22, thrown 80 = 28%

    For a fighter who was having problem connecting with a moving target, he sure did pretty damn well better compared to the self proclaimed best in the world fighting a willing fighter....
     
  5. wilgen99

    wilgen99 Member Full Member

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    With someone like you who "loves" Pacquiao dearly, the last thing we expect from you is a crebible, realistic and unbiased analysis. I bet you don't believe that yourself. :hey
     
  6. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Is this worth watching or is it the usual **** ?
     
  7. PBF24

    PBF24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're acting like Mosley consistently stood his ground in that fight against Floyd and didn't used any backward movement at all. Shane backpedaled on his bike in much more rounds than he fought Floyd standing still. Whilst Manny did landed more power punches and total punches on Mosley than Floyd landed on Mosley, he did threw far way more punches than Floyd threw and still landed 16 more total and 54 more in power punches landed. Manny throw punches in bunches regardless of the pace of the fight he's in, you just have to be defensively skilled enough to limit how much he land on you.
     
  8. NorthernCross

    NorthernCross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather refused it because he doesn't like Mayweather dictating the terms of testing?

    :lol:
     
  9. ALG United

    ALG United Member Full Member

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    I admire Floyd's defensive prowess just like you, but what i am in disagreement with most *****s are their claim that Manny will not connect at all in twelve rounds?!! Let's say Floyd pot shots Manny with 20 power punches per round and by grace of god connected them all for 100% percentage, on the other hand Manny throws his usual 80-100 power punches per round but connects for only 25% percentage and that gives us 20-25 power punches a round and we're still not talking about possible damages inflicted here... Now let's say Floyd was able to cut down Manny's power output by half and he was able to throw only 40-50 power punches a round but connected for 35-40%, that's 14-18 power punches a round, yes that is less than Floyd's 100% output but unlike in the amateurs, professional boxing is all about DAMAGE INFLICTED..... Marquez did connected better than Manny in power punches in their last fight but Manny inflicted much more damage.....
     
  10. PBF24

    PBF24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see what you're saying. However, the only likely case scenario that i could see would be Manny connecting 20% of 60 power punches thrown per round against Floyd, 12 power punches landing per round. It's not impossible to hit Floyd, but hitting him consistently enough to connect around 35-40% of your power punches isn't likely to happen regardless of how accurately Manny is.
     
  11. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Nobody said Manny will not connect with Floyd. He will hit Floyd but I doubt he will hit him consistently with power shots. Manny will not be throwing 5 punch combos bc Floyd will not be there to be hit by them. This fight is going to be fought at long range and inside by Mayweather anyway, and that will spell doom for Manny. Yes Manny has great power but that **** can be zapped just like his speed can be neutralize. I just want to see if Manny can actually adjust when plan A fails him, and if he has plan B can he adjust when that fails him. In my opinion Floyd is going to make Manny play high speed chess and it will be a thinking game in that ring and we all know who wins that battle. Manny will probably throw no more than 40 punches per round bc he will have to be in range and we all know he can't cut the ring off for ****.
     
  12. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The difference though is Floyd will tie manny up after he pot shots him.....the flurries will hardly exist in the fight....and PAC will consistently be held off by a stiff jab...sorry but it will be a lot Like when Floyd fought hatton except PAC is a powerful headhunter n not a body puncher...

    Marquez gave the blueprint to beating PAC...if he tied up more often he would've won both fights easily even with the knockdowns
     
  13. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    what I have come to realized is Roach doesn't believe Pac can beat a prime Floyd. He only thinks he can beat an older Floyd, so that's why you hear him talk about his legs are gone or how he doesn't move around as much and stuff like that.
    He banks on stuff that he hopes Floyd can't do anymore.
     
  14. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    One thing everyone needs to realize is that Roach don't know what to come up with in order to beat Floyd. He has had several goes at it with different fighters and Floyd whipped their asses. Roach knows that he needs multiple game plans for Floyd and that still might not work. :deal
     
  15. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    what??? :huh