Roach says "agree to everything" and Koncz says "agreed to 7 day cutoff" WHICH IS IT?

I've got no idea why they let koncz run around talking like that. It's seems like everyone in manny's camp not named koncz wants koncz fired ( but from what position? ) or maybe a better term is gotten rid of. From everything I've read manny doesn't even call him his manager, but everywhere koncz goes he introduces himself as manny's manager. It seems to be a cluster **** where the left hand doesn't know what the right hands doing.

Again, I have no idea why koncz continues to make statements. As far as I can tell he's the guy who wakes manny up and does his ***** work. If we're gonna talk about arum or roach or even manny contradicting themselves I'm all for it. I just don't take koncz or anything he says seriously, because I think he's simply a hanger on with no real input/influence on anything. As far as I can tell he just wants to act important so he does interviews. Even roach said the worst thing he ever did was introduce manny to koncz.

 

Konz is a trash, I wonder why Pacman hasn't fired him yet.

 

Koncz feeds Manny's dog. He's that much important to the team.

 

Where is your source for stating they don't negotiate for him? You keep saying that with NOTHING to back it up.

Floyd has said believe nothing said from his side unless he says it.

 

As far as you can tell based on WHAT? Please point me to the article/articles with the information that gave you that impression. Becuase there are multiple articles stating he's negotiating for Manny.... Why wouldn't Team Pac correct this lie, stated multiple times?

Also Koncz has said he's NOT his manager, and stated he never said such. He said he's Manny's adviser.
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/14/manny-pacquiaos-adviser-im-not-a-crook/

 

Floyd: Greenburg is lying.

 

PAC and Roach both said the same thing but it really doesn't matter what ANYONE says other than PAC or Floyd on this issue.

We see that BOTH camps can't seem to get their facts straight when speaking for either man. Whether it's the cut off or whether or not there were negotiations the 2nd time around.....it seems that when anyone OTHER than Manny or Floyd speak they end up getting it all wrong.

So.....what we should do is just listen to the facts when they come out of Floyd or Manny's mouths. It's a simple way to ensure we don't get 2nd hand information that is not accurate.

 

You were given a legitimate source and you called it weak. Everyone knows Koncz meant to say agreed to everything not 7. See what I did there?

 

I am starting to think that dodong and puga ni nana are the same person!!!! I was like those two go from thread to thread defending Manny very tough no mattter what the issue is. It was one after the other defending Manny in every thread. Now after reading this thread i am for certain that dodong and puga ni nana is the same person. Check the start date of both of them!!!

 

Roach say's "we've agreed to everything Mayweather demanded".....what he's hiding is that he's talking about the first negotiation, the 14 day cutoff that Mayweather was willing to compromise at.

The problem now is that Mayweather had said back then that if Pac went through with the Clottey fight, that 14 day cutoff would be off the table.

I have yet to hear Roach say, "we've agreed to every Mayweather demand, no cutoffs."
How hard is it to say, "no cutoffs."

That he does not say because its evident that Pacquiao is still demanding some kind of cutoff.

 

Check out part 2 of the timeline. Manny's official website said he agreed to 14 day cutoff and then the next day he says he didn't. Then they said he did not to long later.
Then they insinuate that he agreed to no cutoff and then later it seems that they still want a cutoff

 

Is it possible that during the second negotiations that never happened, the reps that were negotiating for team Mayweather, demanded a 7 day cut off and team pac agreed to this? Could that be why Roach said they agreed to everything? Because they did agree to everything? Maybe "everything" included a 7 day cut off demanded by team Mayweather. I dunno...saying either Koncz or Roach is lying is assuming that "everything" automatically means no cut off. Very misleading of Roach though.
When Greenberg said they had an agreement, something was proposed and agreed upon. I'm not sure how that automatically means no cut off.

 

Well, Roach is one of the worlds most famous liars, who historically says almost anything to back up his guys.

And Koncz is just a businessman, telling you what happened.

Truth is, Pacquiao fans just hear what they want to hear

 

Koncz, Mayweather, Jeff Mayweather, Shaefer all agree with eachother on this.

They all said the same thing.

Manny, Arum, Roach contest it.

Roach and Arum being well known bull shitters, and Manny being a guy who contradicts himself twice a week

Roach and Manny and Arum say what Pacquiao fans want to hear.

Everyone else tells you how it is

 

You know, it's not even a debate.

Day after the fight fell through, Jeff Mayweather said:

"They came to the table, to try and get something done, but it became pretty clear, pretty early that there was going to be no agreement on testing. So Floyd walked, as it's none negotiable for him".

You know, that's a fair appraisal. Nothing abusive. Just saying facts.

Koncz has said the exact same thing. Numerous times.

Floyd says the exact same thing.

Schaefer says the exact same thing.

The only people saying anything different are Roach, Arum and Manny. Guys who have changed their story numerous times.

Jeff Mayweather (a really normal, honest guy. Nothing like his brothers) explained it all , in great detail, very early. Days after it went through.

It took 12 more months of bull****, before Arum and Roachs lies were exposed