Roach says BJ will beat GSP if they strike..lol

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  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I don't think BJ is the best striker ever. He is good but GSP is a quality striker and spars world class boxers.
     
  3. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    if GSP beats Penn and Fedor beats AA Roach should walk around with his foot shoved in his mouth....or wear a Teddy Atlas T-shirt.
     
  4. Cameron

    Cameron Active Member Full Member

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    ^ thats going to happen gsp will own and AA has a glass jaw
     
  5. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't see whats so funny about this..

    GSP got KO'd by Serra and Penn is a good striker, seems an ok pick to me.
     
  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    But thats not where Roach is coming from..the guy seriously believes that boxing is all you need in MMA as far as standup. Lets see if AA gets koed standing..then maybe Fedor can fight Klitschko next
     
  7. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Any quotes to back that up?

    Roach knows a lot about boxing, boxing is a part of MMA; whats the problem with him giving his opinions? :huh
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Thats the gist of the article. If GSP stands up with BJ, BJ will win because hes got better boxing. Forget kicks, forget knees, forget elbows, he will win because hes got better boxing. Hes the best striker in MMA because hes got the best boxing.
     
  9. Tyga

    Tyga Active Member Full Member

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    Well if the fight were to stay standing, I would also favor Penn.
     
  10. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know it was nearly 3 years ago but going off that you gotta give Penn a standup advantage. Almost all of GSPs power punches where blocked and the majority of his kicks BJ checked them. BJ landed several jabs alot of them where counters to plus he landed several good power punches in that fight. GSPs face was busted up for a reason I got the DVD I fail to see the thumb in the eye it looked alot more like a legit jab and then he hit him with an uppercut the bloodied his nose. BJ is probablly more confident in his standup now coming off his destructions of Sherk and Stevenson while GSP has been gun shy for the most part since being KOed by Matt Serra any guy with dangerous standup GSP has not tried to fool with when they have fought since.
     
  11. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    GSP will not stand with BJ. I know this is counterintuative thinking but GSP might seem in a bind here. Stand or not. Sure he can take BJ down eventually, but would he really want that?

    We've mentioned that he may not want to stand up since that will give BJ a slight advantage, but would you really be comfortable in BJs guard? I mean he may slide and take your back, who the **** knows what trick he has. BJs I think got one up over GSP in terms of mind games. Reason why BJ is so confident.

    GSP have to deal with the following

    He wont sub BJ
    He wont KO him cold
    He doesnt know what to expect in BJs guard, I mean he almost got gogoplatad last fight.

    He might have to outstrike BJ afterall

    and lastly he would not want Penn on top of him

    thats alot to think about

    BJ meanwhile is ok wherever, hes got good standup and hes home on his back
     
  12. Tyga

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    I agree with you. But let me play devil's advocate.

    BJ's weakness has always been his cardio. And with all due respect to Sherk and Stevenson, I think it's safe to say that St-Pierre is neither Sean or Joe. Georges is a notch above both fighters. And this fight with BJ will be a five round WAR. I don't see either fighter finishing the other.

    Although no Penn on the mat, Georges has excellent Jiu Jitsu. And his Wrestling is probably the best in all of MMA today. I can see St-Pierre taking BJ down and not getting submitted. Georges can easily win a decision. But will he? We'll just have to wait and see.
     
  13. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You bring up a good point about GSPs Wrestling ability I mean we do gotta remember he took BJ down 4 times in that fight and no doubt thats what got him the decision. I feel though BJs training has improved greatly and he will be harder to get down now and while down even if George isnt submitted I score points for the guy doing things the reason I gave that 3rd round to BJ in the 1st bout is because GSP was doing little to nothing while BJ was going for submissions. Im so glad its 5 rounds this time.
     
  14. Tyga

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    BJ just has so much natural talent, it's ridiculous. If Penn was in shape for that fight he would've beaten Georges in my opinion. But I give all the credit in the world to St-Pierre. Georges won that fight.

    Bottom line, if BJ comes to the fight in shape and focused, BJ wins.
     
  15. kingpwc

    kingpwc PERSEVERANCE Full Member

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    bj has been in shape..since the matt hughes fight...he was handling..matt hughes easily...until he gased.....

    he then and their realize he was just relying on his talent...and had to be in better shape..becuase thats the only..reason..hughes won...was his lack of preperation

    now that he in shape..and quite possible ...won the first fight with gsp....but didnt get win..

    gsp..was banged up..and bj...wasnt

    gsp knows this and so does penn

    so a motivate penn..who...believes he won the first time(aswell do alot of others)...

    who wants to prove the doubters wrong....

    is a tough fighter

    gsp is dope....i like him and his style alot....

    but.....

    i see bj winnin this.....b4 3rd.....and wont be surprised if its ko/tko...

    imo