Roach says BJ will beat GSP if they strike..lol

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  1. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BJ didnt exactly gas he broke his ribs I have done the same while practicing JiuJitsu its very difficult to compete with.
     
  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I think even with the cardio issue, BJ has built it in his game not to get subbed. I remember an interview in 06 ina machado seminar.. he said hes falling inlove with JJ again and his goal is for him not to be submitted no matter what you do to him. This was 2 years ago.

    Its a great thing to carry into a fight knowing you wont get submitted. GSP can never submit BJ thats as good as fact. Also Penn has a cast Iron for a head, I doubt hes even gotten hurt before. These are immense mental advantages, its almost half the battle right there.

    What is GSP going to do? Take him down and lay on him try for some elbows. But note also that GSP will not be able to take down BJ until late 2nd round or 3rd in IMHO. And if you keep it standing BJ wont get as tired.

    Im beginning to really think BJ will pull it out just because stylistically and mentally he has so much advantages albeit subtle ones, he seems to have more options.
     
  3. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    For people who saw that fight, there was no doubt something was wrong..BJ basically came into the 3rd with his hands down..Hughes making him a punching bag. Anyone who saw that fight was like .."wait wait, what the **** is going on here?"

    I mean if that was just cardio, trust me hed still have his hands up
     
  4. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly like ive said the rib problem its horrible its much more worse then being gassed out ive been gassed enough to know the difference. When I broke my rib I couldnt even breathe without wanting to cry and I never had to do anything with a guy like Matt Hughes neither. I kinda hope Hughes gets back on track BJ can defeat him agian because although Hughes an ATG its so obvious when they fight who is clearly better BJ has beat his ass like a drum until that 3rd round every secound of there fights.
     
  5. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    BJ said he would love to fight Hughes a third time, he said who cares if hes a wounded animal he wants to kill him .:lol: It was an interview floating around on YT
     
  6. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    St. Pierre has better boxing, and overall striking. He is the more faster on his feet, better handspeed, way more strong, better wrestler, better stamina, better coaches, does not have a glass jaw
    Quote me on all that

    that's been a LONG time since they fought, and was hardly a domination for fatty in the standing departement.

    and LOL at all the comments who say, if BJ is focused and in shape, he win:lol: if he lose that was because he wasnt in top shape
    nice way to forget all the talent of GSP

    anyway, i've argue a thousand times over these two fighters, I'm tired to do it in my second language.

    But this time, BJ Penn will be in the best shape of his life, and GSP will beat him. There will be no more excuse, Georges St. Pierre is a better fighter than BJ , that is what we will say in history.

    But i'm pretty sure, we are gonna hear the weight excuse that BJ dont do well at 170, but what's funny when the Penn nuthugger argue over his legacy, they use his fight at 185 vs Gracie where he dominated him and bla bla bla.



    If i'm wrong on all the line, feel free to come here, and up this thread. I'll eat my crow

    GSP, will take this, either by late round TKO, or a complete domination of 5 rounds.
    BJ Will win only one round.
    :good:good:good
     
  7. ShadowWorks

    ShadowWorks Active Member Full Member

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    This is just to hard to call with any degree of accuracy, GSP is a much improved fighter than he was the first time he fought Penn, Penn is also a much better fighter with more skill and and motivation to train.


    The truth is BJ Penn is not a big guy and is not juiced up the way GSP is, I would be very happy for BJ to fight GSP if he was taking as much gear as possible, these gas tanks are not all cardio.
     
  8. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    juiced up?:patsch:patsch:patsch
    Go look at picture of GSP, he has the SAME shape since he is in the UFC, he never bulked up.
     
  9. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then explain how after years of being a strong fighter now hes super human strong like some sort of robot and after a 25 minute fighter hes barley breathing like hes been shadow boxing for 5 minutes.
     
  10. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    he always had a strenght advantage over ANYONE since the beggining of his career. you know, some people have that gift from god to be VERY STRONG. His cardio always was a strong point, always.
    He is just a phenomenal athlete whos training as hard as anyone.
     
  11. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And whos going to get his ass kicked agian by BJ.
     
  12. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Will you make a bet with me please?
    Man up:good
     
  13. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sure.
     
  14. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    you had it easy last time with a hockey player of Montreal. Now you'll have a good won, probably related to MMA
     
  15. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like what im guessing some gay ass GSP avatar.