Roach says he wants 60/40 in favor of PAC and the fight can happen

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rooney, Nov 17, 2009.


  1. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :patsch Are you seriously trying to make a case when Floyd out sold Manny when they had common opponents.

    Those are facts buddy...its pretty hard to make a case for Manny when his PPV #'s hasnt been published or produced yet!
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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  3. applez

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    The fight with marquez 2 years ago, pacquiao was not mainstream yet.
    Fight with hatton/hoya, they were coming off mayweather defeats.

    Wouldnt an undefeated hatton versus mayweather sound a lot better than a pacquiao vs hatton who just got ktfo by mayweather?

    As Im saying different cirumstances. If cotto would fight mayweather right after he got beat by pacquiao, he would definitely sell less than pacquiao.
     
  4. Rudyard

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    :lol::rofl:lol: Dont try to twist it up...You said Manny is the draw...If he was the draw then why didnt he do better #'s then...Point blank...Floyd outsold him with common opponents...Now when the #'s come out for the Cotto\Pac fight then you can make a case but until then...Floyd's the draw and the #'s support my claim!
     
  5. applez

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    lol I'm not twisting it up..Im just using logic to explain. Let's say de la hoya comes out of retirement and fights pacquiao or mayweather again.. Do you honestly think they'd sell near as much as they would have the first time they fought? The numbers just tell one point of view but you have to use some logic to understand the circumstances lol.

    And yes I'm basing this on the fact that hbo was saying pacquiao/cotto outsold by a wide margin the mayweather fight, which isnt official. But if it is how they say I definitely think 50/50 is more than fair for mayweather.
     
  6. Rudyard

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    You're trying to go back and rewrite history...Thats why I say you're trying to twist things up...We can only go by what have actually happened...and thats Floyd has sold more when they've had the common opponent.

    Its all spueculation on HBO or anybody else at this point if the actual #'s arent produced...I'm not trying to argue on Floyd's part because I'm not getting a dime of his money but you got give credit when credit is due and right now...Floyd edges Pacman as far as popularity goes..Those #'s indicate that Floyd is a draw...even if its people wanting to see him lose...The point is they're still tuning in.:good
     
  7. In_FlaMeS

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    50/50 at 147 would be nice and just... + wohaaa man Roach is truly a blablabla machine
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LMAO!!! Classic contract ducking!!! They don't want Pac to get that ass tapped!
     
  9. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I told you guys Roach will ruin this fight. He knows PBF is not suited for his fighter.
    ITs funny how he and Arum changed their tune as soon as they saw PBFs performance.

    This fight i dont think will come off. im thinking we see either a JMM 3 fight or a Mosley fight. Depending on how Mosley looks against Berto.
     
  10. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You think Floyd would want to do a 50/50 split?? Floyd will come out with the same **** - 60/40 , 65/35 . That guys ego is too big to agree to 50/50.
     
  11. psychopath

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    Stop crying boiii . . . that's how negotiation goes . . . now a days. Media is a major factor.

    So sit down shut your mouth and wait for things to unfold. :yep
     
  12. bald_head_slick

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    @ Rudyard -- These "logic" users are all over the Internet. They can "logically" tell you why Manny is the better fighter, should get the most money, etc... Then when you present them with the facts (which logic is based upon) like who has the higher PPV buys, who had more favorable contracts, etc... they just repeat themselves. They are caught up in belief not logic.

    When you are trying to get a PPV fight the only thing that matters is draw. Who is "liked" the most is irrelevant. Most fighters don't even have the luxury of shared opponents upon which to base negotiations. Fortunately, these guys do. Unfortunately, The Meddling Hand of Arum is more concerned with protecting Manny instead of negotiating in good faith.

    Arum has been gaming the WW division for years now. He shuts out fighters unless you agree to lopsided contracts. Or Arum puts his fighters in against each other double dipping on the revenue. The Meddling Hand of Arum is a force indeed.
     
  13. stilltharow

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    bladerunner is a known floyd hater any thread abt floyd hes the first one to reply!
     
  14. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He shouldn't do a 50/50 split! He is the bigger draw! It would be foolish for him to accept a 50/50 split.

    He will bring a fan base AND casual fans to see him lose. He is on par with Mike Tyson. Even when people knew he wasn't competitive, you just wanted to see the man!
     
  15. applez

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    How is what I said rewriting history lol. Im just stating the facts and using my head to analyze. Since you dont want to use your head and rationalize, I guess I'll play along with you. IF pacquiao/cotto outsells the mayweather fight by a decent margin would you consider pacquiao as the bigger draw?