Roach targets Hatton, DLH & PBF for Pac after JMM.

kg0208 · Dec 11, 2007

PacDbest said:

How can hatton put his head on Pac's Chest??? He has to Deal with Pac's straight left & Right hook first. Give an example of who did the same example of style against Pac??? Watch Pac vs Kon Chae... He did that, he never last a round against the Crude Pac.
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Give an example of a brawler and straight forward fighter who has beaten Hatton....

Show me an example of Pacquiao stopping a man at 140 or higher.

You cannot prove a negative. Asking for them doesn't eliminate them from happening, now does it.

Caliboxing · Dec 11, 2007

acb said:

IMO, Hatton is too much for anyone 140lbs and under. Pac will not carry his speed into higher weights, just look at how much speed Floyd lost from 130lbs onwards. And his power will drop off too.
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That may be so but if anyone can compete with him, it's Pacquiao IMO.

johnco · Dec 11, 2007

kg0208 said:

Really? And what have you seen? Cuz frankly, you haven't seen much, or you're making it up.1 Did you see PBF run from Gatti, Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, or anyone under 147?

P4P #2 means you are a good fighter P4P. We are not talking P4P. We are talking about Pacquiao as a JWW and higher. And on top of this, P4P fighters get stopped all the time. Or don't you brag about Pacquiao stopping MAB all the time?
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1.a gatti=class c fighter :roll:
1.b pbf lost that fight first :good
1.c the rest of the fight was eons ago when he was younger
1.d. baldo, judah UD :rofl
1.e mitchell, brussels, sosa who are these guys :-((

acb · Dec 11, 2007

PacDbest said:

How can hatton put his head on Pac's Chest??? He has to Deal with Pac's straight left & Right hook first. Give an example of who did the same example of style against Pac???
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No, I dont need to. Pac is the fighter moving up, so Im not going to waste time talking about his track record at lower weights.

And your logic about him not getting past the left hand doesnt work either. He smothered the **** out of Kosta, and his right hand trumphs Pac's left every day of the week.

kg0208 · Dec 11, 2007

PacDbest said:

This guy Ultimate Boxing fan of Pacland posted this, We have the same analysis.

"""""Floyd Mayweather was taller with a longer reach when he fought

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[COLOR=#ffffa4! important][FONT='Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Hatton[/font][/color][/font][/color][/color]. He is also more skillful and smarter than Hatton.
And his fight plan with the tactics he implemented was just
right and Hatton succumbed to the trap.

Hatton's chance to win that night was very slim.

Hatton's fight plan was the expected one by the Mayweather
camp and was very prepared for it.

Ricky failed to use the element of surprise in a fight many thought
Floyd would win just by comparing their styles and decision-
making abilities in their many previous fights.

Hatton in a pre-fight interview described how he would deal with
Floyd and Floyd was ready for it.

Hatton's head was a sitting duck for Floyd's lightning lead jabs. He
never moved his head at all. And whenever he pins Floyd at the
ropes, he was throwing punches in scatter maybe hoping one
powerful punch luckily slips in from Floyd's defense. There was no
rhythm or a special sequence of combinations studied and prepared
to counter how Floyd moves in that situation.

In one of my threads, I said Hatton is the
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[COLOR=#ffffa4! important][FONT='Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Pacquiao[/font][/color][/font][/color][/color] of
Europe just because both are exciting powerful punchers and
relentless in their attacks.

The only great difference between the two is in the style of
using their respective powerpunches and the limitations in
being relentless.

Manny Pacquiao now is very selective in his attacks and has
the ability or maybe an instinct of when and how to attack.

Manny also develped that non-stop head movement and
the feints to avoid the lead jabs or attempts in attacks by
his opponents espcially if taller or with a longer reach than him.
And Manny learned to back away to avoid getting hit and
counterattacks when the opponent misses.

Ricky Hatton never did anything like that and was a sitting
target with the much bigger and skillful Mayweather.
Hatton used the "bara-bara" style of fighting with the hope
of just wearing down Floyd and hoped for a lucky KO punch
later in the rounds.

Pacquiao together with tactician Roach who have an eye for
details and pinpoint determination of an opponent's weaknesses,
Manny have much greater chance of beating Floyd than Hatton.

Hatton, knowing than he is the smaller guy fighting a bigger and
skillful fighter used the wrong approach and fighting tactics to have
greater chances at success with all the advantages Floyd had.

Floyd Mayweather cannot knockout Manny Pacquiao.
But he'll be the favorite to win via a decision if he survives
Pacquiao's onslaught.

Let the debates begins......""""

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Symphenyceo · Dec 11, 2007

Caliboxing said:

Hatton will definitely have the weight advantage but not much else. Pac will be a little faster and speed is important.
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the speed will be irrelevant......hatton would be just as fast at 140...and Pac uses his speed to come forward in a straight line...his lateral movement is trash

johnco · Dec 11, 2007

PacDbest said:

This guy Ultimate Boxing fan of Pacland posted this, We have the same analysis.

"""""Floyd Mayweather was taller with a longer reach when he fought

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[COLOR=#ffffa4! important][FONT='Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Hatton[/font][/color][/font][/color][/color]. He is also more skillful and smarter than Hatton.
And his fight plan with the tactics he implemented was just
right and Hatton succumbed to the trap.

Hatton's chance to win that night was very slim.

Hatton's fight plan was the expected one by the Mayweather
camp and was very prepared for it.

Ricky failed to use the element of surprise in a fight many thought
Floyd would win just by comparing their styles and decision-
making abilities in their many previous fights.

Hatton in a pre-fight interview described how he would deal with
Floyd and Floyd was ready for it.

Hatton's head was a sitting duck for Floyd's lightning lead jabs. He
never moved his head at all. And whenever he pins Floyd at the
ropes, he was throwing punches in scatter maybe hoping one
powerful punch luckily slips in from Floyd's defense. There was no
rhythm or a special sequence of combinations studied and prepared
to counter how Floyd moves in that situation.

In one of my threads, I said Hatton is the
This content is protected
[COLOR=#ffffa4! important][FONT='Lucida Grande', 'Trebuchet MS', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Pacquiao[/font][/color][/font][/color][/color] of
Europe just because both are exciting powerful punchers and
relentless in their attacks.

The only great difference between the two is in the style of
using their respective powerpunches and the limitations in
being relentless.

Manny Pacquiao now is very selective in his attacks and has
the ability or maybe an instinct of when and how to attack.

Manny also develped that non-stop head movement and
the feints to avoid the lead jabs or attempts in attacks by
his opponents espcially if taller or with a longer reach than him.
And Manny learned to back away to avoid getting hit and
counterattacks when the opponent misses.

Ricky Hatton never did anything like that and was a sitting
target with the much bigger and skillful Mayweather.
Hatton used the "bara-bara" style of fighting with the hope
of just wearing down Floyd and hoped for a lucky KO punch
later in the rounds.

Pacquiao together with tactician Roach who have an eye for
details and pinpoint determination of an opponent's weaknesses,
Manny have much greater chance of beating Floyd than Hatton.

Hatton, knowing than he is the smaller guy fighting a bigger and
skillful fighter used the wrong approach and fighting tactics to have
greater chances at success with all the advantages Floyd had.

Floyd Mayweather cannot knockout Manny Pacquiao.
But he'll be the favorite to win via a decision if he survives
Pacquiao's onslaught.

Let the debates begins......""""

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kg and acb majored in english they will encircle this writeup as if nothing happened :roll:

acb · Dec 11, 2007

johnco said:

acb, hatton is the weakest link of the 3.
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On this we agree.

PacDbest · Dec 11, 2007

kg0208 said:

Speed is important against Hatton when you are a counter puncher. Footspeed more than handspeed. Pacquiao is not a counter puncher.

Also, you are guessing at Pacquiao's speed, when precedence says he will slow down. Not speed up.
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I can't believe KG picks Hatton over Pac. You're going to eat your words KG. I'll guarantee that.

johnco · Dec 11, 2007

acb said:

No, I dont need to. Pac is the fighter moving up, so Im not going to waste time talking about his track record at lower weights.

And your logic about him not getting past the left hand doesnt work either. He smothered the **** out of Kosta, and his right hand trumphs Pac's left every day of the week.
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kosta new or old?? hmmmm :hi:

kg0208 · Dec 11, 2007

johnco said:

1.a gatti=class c fighter :roll:
1.b pbf lost that fight first :good
1.c the rest of the fight was eons ago when he was younger
1.d. baldo, judah UD :rofl
1.e mitchell, brussels, sosa who are these guys :-((
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So you haven't seen PBF run then except at 147....you simply avoided answering the question and posted lots of emoticons. You can't even answer a question and I should think you can honor a bet?

And don't start the "who are these guys" cuz I can do the same to the nobodies Pacquiao has fought. Or are we ok with 2kBattery, Valazquez, and Solis' of the world?

johnco · Dec 11, 2007

PacDbest said:

I can't believe KG picks Hatton over Pac. You're going to eat your words KG. I'll guarantee that.
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he said pac wont survive 5 rounds with hatton :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
he'll be banned for life. what a moron he took the bait :deal

kg0208 · Dec 11, 2007

johnco said:

kg and acb majored in english they will encircle this writeup as if nothing happened :roll:
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Majored in psychology. It's pathetic when ignorance tries to use intelligence as an insult.

acb · Dec 11, 2007

TopDog said:

The real question is how long would Pacquiao be able to survive Floyd's deadly accurat combinations?
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Pac's timing would be so affected by Floyd's accuracy and timing that he would rarely be able to even throw the left hand.

Symphenyceo · Dec 11, 2007

PacDbest said:

How can hatton put his head on Pac's Chest??? He has to Deal with Pac's straight left & Right hook first. Give an example of who did the same example of style against Pac??? Watch Pac vs Kon Chae... He did that, he never last a round against the Crude Pac.
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Hatton would walk through those punches...and the fight would be at 140 and Pac doesnt have the boxing skill to keep hatton off

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