Roach: The key to beating Mayweather is to literally beat him up.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JuanMa, Jul 29, 2009.


  1. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    The reason why Roach is bugging is because Floyd has a jab which will dicate the pace of the fight. Floyd is taller, longer, and maybe even faster. Roach is reaching with his comments, but also promoting the fight. Floyd is not like any other fighter Roach has had to break down for Pac.

    Roach is right when he says you have to go in and beat Floyd up...he has no clue when mentioning Floyd's past injuries lol...as if that is a detriment to anything. Pac can't fight inside which is why Floyd wins imo. Pac is dangerous early, but after Floyd slows him, Pac will have to dig deep, and nobody hhas dug deepr than Floyd during his whole career. Floyd's age is his only flaw, and fans don't see that as a flaw at all.
     
  2. Pimp C

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    Excellent post! I couldn't agree more. PBF will frustrate the hell outta Manny just like he did Hatton and have him come in reckless and wild and when he does he will pay. Manny won't see the opening that's he normally used to seeing because he has never fought a defensive counter-puncher before and will find PBF a hard target to crack and will be confused his natural instinct will take over and he will go to war which will play right into PBF's hands.:deal When PBF realizes this it will be all over for Manny and he will be on the end of a beating by a superior boxer.
     
  3. jgorst05

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    until he loses, no one knows the key to beating him, they may suspect but they dont know. I think they should concentrate on cotto for now, seems roach is already looking past him and that seems a little disrespectful/foolish to me. Lets wait and see what happens when miguel lands a bomb on pacs chin first.
     
  4. NALLEGE

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    Pac has been the counter puncher in his last 3 fights. When he attacked JMM early in their first fight, and could not put him away, the fight became a struggle. In the rematch, Pac fought JMM smarter early, but he still struggled, but that WAS against a great fighter. Pac has to make Floyd the aggressor imo for him to win. Hit him hard early to gain Floyd's respect, and get the crowd going so that when Floyd retaliates, he can counter Floyd. Pac has two ways he can win. Use his speed, get in and out for 12, or attack Floyd early. I don't think he can win either way, but that is just my opinion.
     
  5. NALLEGE

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    Pac-Floyd would be a 50-50 fight imo if Pac was a great inside fighter. PAc will compensate for lacking in this department though. Pac becomes a legend, if he defeats Floyd.
     
  6. Pimp C

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    He resorted to head hunting because he was frustrated with his inability to get to PBF's body a he was beaten at his own game and outworked on the inside by a superiour inside fighter and he was also baited into opening up and coming in wild. PBF set some brilliant traps in that fight it ws beautiful to watch.:deal
     
  7. David_TheMan

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    I don't see Pac-Floyd as 50-50. I see it 90- 10 in favor of Floyd. Pac can't handle boxers period. Eric schooled him before his decline, JMM schooled him in both fights, and if PBF fights him he will school him as well.

    Too much credit is giving to the Oscar and Hatton wins, with regards to the improvements Manny has supposedly made and with regards to the power he carries. Even in the Hatton fight Manny still was reckless and wild with his punching and was still caught by Hatton with some flush shots, this does not bode well for him in his fight against Cotto, let alone in a fight against Floyd, who would make him pay dearly.

    The way I look at it, there really are not top ffights that are winnable for Pac at 147 and 140. Maybe he can go down to 135 and try to pick off JMM"s leftovers.
     
  8. boxbox

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    exactly, thats why going after Floyds head should not be the 1st priority if you want to beat him.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    Hatton had great foot speed as well he can close the distance to and you see where that got him. PBF turned his aggression against him and had him so wound up he didn't know if he was coming or going.

    PBF will beat Pac up on the inside and people will be surprised at how easily he does it. He will clinch Manny put an elbow in his throat beat him to the punch pick his shots and counter and repeat. PBF's inside fighting game is the most underrated thing about him he knows every trick in the book.:deal
     
  10. Biggame

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    Making mistakes is something Floyd does much of so I doubt he'll fall victim to the side step, in fact I think he'll be very prepared!
     
  11. boxbox

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    Why not ask Pac to go fishing instead?:rofl
     
  12. Biggame

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    :good
     
  13. NALLEGE

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    :good
     
  14. boxbox

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    Good for him then. Cause he'd look so stupid if Pac beats him.:hey
     
  15. David_TheMan

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    Pac isn't going to fight Floyd because he is going to get KO'd by Cotto.