Roach: The key to beating Mayweather is to literally beat him up.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JuanMa, Jul 29, 2009.


  1. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    He said don't mention styles makes fights lol... Pac couldn't ko Larios yet Vasquez could. What's your point? Vitali couldn't ko Lewis, yet Rahman and Mcall could, what's your point? This is why nobody respects you. My bad, you're only 15. You have time to grow Harrison lol...
     
  2. jalyn23

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    this is really funny, reading how some of the people on here is agreeing from roach lol he must of did this interview on the day he did not take his meds!!!! I understand some of you guys hope that floyd loses, if he does it wont be to pacman, roach is a sometimish nice guy like i said on the days he takes his meds vs the days he dont- this is the same person who said in the same interview khan is the 10 top p4p fighter- more so i guess roach was banking on some of you people thinking that floyd and castillo fought only once lol the second fight was not that close- but i gues that one does not count towards making a point lol- YOU CATS CAN BELIEVE ROACH IS THE TRUTH, HE JUST STARTED TRAINING FIGHTERS A FEW YEARS AGO, AND HE TURNS EVERYONE INTO A CHAMPION LOL- fact is he has a losing record as a trainer- ocsar at 154 is not the same at 147- yet roach wants you to believe they are the same fighter- "look at what pacman did to oscar" lol for those of you that believe it there is a bridge for sale in brooklyn- taking cash buyers only lol- and for the really cool guy that said zab in the first 4 rounds set the blue print :??????? when do pro fighters fight 4 round fights???? zab is the best 4 round fighter in boxing- did he set a game plan to beat cotto in the first 4 rounds lol. do not let the hate towards a fighter make you so bias that you believe bull****. look at it this way 39 fights- injury aside "fighters fight" and a fight from how many years ago is your trainer of the years blue print????? I repsect pacman the fighter, he comes to fight no bs, his trainer/ manager/promoter has said "he is not the one fighting" what great game plan to beat hatton??? he comes straight ahead hands down!!!! one of you cats could of had that game plan and i am sure most of you have never laced up a pair of gloves- "more so the freddie is right" comments lol

    we have seen pacman on shaky legs vs jmm, see his fights (old) where he was ko to the body- seen him lose to eric m. (he did win the last 2 fights against him) - believe the hype i am sure arum loves it!!!!
     
  3. ChrisKim47

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    I don't think Zab's physical attributes outweigh Pac's by much at all. If its anything its Zab's power, but you can't say Pac doesnt have the strength to be able to knock down FMJ. Pac throw amazing amounts of punches, with most importantly balance. That means he's got leverage on ALL his punches. Polar opposite of Pac's technique reminds me of Calzaghe who has no power in his combination punches. FMJ used to fight, but now he just sits back and counters.
    If money starts throwing like he did early in his career, it will be a good fight and his to win because of size difference.
    Otherwise, its all Pac and its all day.
     
  4. lefthook31

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    I think Roach is correct. You have to beat a fighter down and make him stand and fight. Pac isnt going to outslick or out box Mayweather, but he does have quite a bit of speed to do what Roach is saying. Easier said then done, Floyd is very crafty, has an excellent chin, and learned the old school techniques of blocking and countering. It will be an interesting fight if it ever happens, but to me if Floyd still has his heart in fighting there is no way Pac can beat him.
     
  5. ChrisKim47

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    Oh and his fights vs JMM, Pac's technique has come a LONG way. He reaches less now, and follows up his lefts with right hooks. He also doesn't always start his flurries with the jab, he mixes it up. That is a sign of a GREAT trainer teaching Pac some great technique. You can see how much better Pac has gotten, that is if you actually watch boxing. IMO he's up there with Pernell. Pac kinda reminds me of Dejesus in his prime vs. Duran intheir first bout. He slugs and follows it up with the hook and slips out of range so fluidly. Beautiful stuff.
     
  6. money21207

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    didn't floyd beat odlh with roach's gameplan? roach is good but roach won't be the only one gameplanning mayweather trains too doesn't he. floyd adjust to any style well won't be much difference here
     
  7. money21207

    money21207 knockout artist Full Member

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    don't bother with snell he's the biggest ball hugger I've seen around these parts..... he's blinded by love floyd will beat marquez "convincingly" like pac couldnt
     
  8. J.R.

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    Not exactly an awe inspiring observation... "BEAT HIM UP"... Oh, gee Mr. Roach, I never would've thought about that on my own. :lol::roll: I'd like to hear much more specifics than that.
     
  9. octarine

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    roach did say later on that DLH can't cut the ring and that he does not have it anymore, so i wouldn't really blame roach's gameplan if DLH can't execute it well.
     
  10. money21207

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    lol odlh was past it when he fought floyd what was he wen he fought pac? zombie? thanks mr roach
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    If Roach thinks that Pac can walk in and force a brawl with Floyd, good luck because Floyd is best when he is counter punching as is Pac. Pac has to be in and out, but when he goes in, his fists have to be on fire throwing every blow like it is his last, and then back out and resting.
     
  12. NALLEGE

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    Pac has to keep Floyd constantly thinking because once Floyd solves you, fight over.
     
  13. money21207

    money21207 knockout artist Full Member

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    true indeed
     
  14. octarine

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    well, i think he was on a decline anyway until pacquiao beat him to retirement.

    all im saying is, gameplans mean nothing if your boxer cant execute. he probably had a plan for DLH when he was fighting PBF, and im sure that the plan would have been enough to beat PBF, if DLH had it in him to execute it properly. it was good enough for an SD anyway. he saw how DLH lost to PBF, he will try to make sure he doesnt make the same mistake with pacquiao.
     
  15. paloalto00

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    I think we may be talking about the same thing, but misunderstood eachother lol. Cause that is what I meant. I thought you meant fight like ali where he tries to stay as far as possible