Roach was on 106.7 this morning

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    i did not name-call. i thought that you were the poster "spitbucket" before because you have the same posting style and is very critical to pac and especially to floyd.

    oscar could be or not be weight drained. roach said so but oscar and nacho said he was ok after the weigh-in. it could be a case of him going down on the weight a little longer than necessary. it was reported that several weeks before the fight, he was already at 147 pounds. imo, their strategy was to get oscar as low as possible to increase his speed coz he already had the inherent size-advantage over pac.

    pac-oscar at 154, would just make oscar absorb more punishment. even if pac became slower, which i don't think would be the case, he still way faster than this version of oscar.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I've said it before.

    Actually, before the fight I sad Oscar was shot and people laughed at me. "He just gave Floyd a tough fight". "He just shut out Steve Forbes" I made a poll saying that Oscar was more shot than Mosley after Mosley vs Cotto and some people said I was wrong.

    Oscar's been shot since he fought Felix Sturm. TRUTH.

    In fact, if you look back at my comments on Oscar before the fight, you will see I already knew what the haters are claiming now and were denying before the fight. So trust me when I also say this. Prime for prime, Pac from the Hatton fight vs Oscar from the first Chavez fight.... Pac has his hands raised at the end of the night.
     
  3. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK, my bad. But if that's the case you could accuse a lot of posters here of being the same guy. And you're being way too sensitive if you think I'm being critical of Pac. I think I've been pretty objective.


    If you still sincerely believe that DLH was not affected by the weight keep in mind that he looked worse than David Diaz.!
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    no. haters pick-up on his lines and abuse them as if its the only gospel truth. whenever pac-oscar fight was mentioned, haters always say that oscar was weight-drained and/or shot but conveniently forget how much concession, weight-wise (and even monetary-wise) pac has to adjust just to make the fight.
     
  5. PH|LLA

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    and BTW I never considered the Oscar fight to be the fight that defined Pac's greatness in my eyes. It was already established.
     
  6. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can't ridicule your opinion cause it's no better or worse than mine, but IMO a prime for prime fight still goes easily DLH's way!
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    how can you say that he looked worse than diaz? just because he lasted 1 less round than him? both fights were too one-sided to say he looked worse than diaz. both did not win any single round.

    the last time oscar fought at 154 was with floyd. even that oscar would not beat pac. all he had was just come-forward jab-jab-jab. and he gassed-out after 8 rounds. once pac moves, he would be picking-up that version of oscar at 154.
     
  8. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here was DLH, an ATG, looking slower and unable to put up any type of offensive, even Diaz beat him in that department.

    I agree with you that the DLH that faced FLoyd was already going downhill fast and that's part of the reason I feel PBF gets overrated and I can't discount your opinion that Pac would also have beaten that version of DLH because it's quite possible but stick to my assertion that it would in the least have been a closer fight and DLH would have had a better chance at a victory!
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

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    i see your reasoning here. but cast aside the name and the accomplishments, neither fighter looked good against pac.

    that version of pac would beat even the oscar that fought floyd at 154 and would much be dominating than floyd. my reason is floyd likes to just back-up straight when oscar is jabbing but does not punch back more in return. he just picked it up when oscar gassed-out. with pac, no doubt he would be backed-up by the bigger oscar but would just circle away, slip his jabs and give punches in return, with really bad intentions.
     
  10. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roach should just take the fight for Pac against Mosley at 147, you typically don't become a legend for catch weight fights. And Pacquiao should take a shot at welterweight again.
     
  11. Kush

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    Roach is definitely a Pacteron
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    Let Mosely fight Vitali Klitschko if he thinks weight means nothing.
     
  13. Simple100

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    why they always hate PAC :patsch:patsch:patsch