Robberies That Were Not.....

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A new thread got me to thinking about this. What are some time-honored fights that are continually parroted as "robberies" when quite frankly, they just were not? Makes me wonder if some have actually seen the fights they mention, or if it's just what they feel conditioned to say over time(?)

    The first three that come to mind for me..........

    Leonard-Hearns II - I had Tommy by a point, but to call this a robbery exposes one's noobness. Painfully close fight no matter whom you give it to. It was ebb and flow, back and forth all the way. To say it was a robbery against Hearns sounds really agenda-ridden.

    Hagler-Antuofermo I - This one is more borderline, as I thought Hagler was the victor by a good couple points, maybe three. Objectively though, such a score reflects a close fight. The way you read about it in some circles however (like here, quite often), you'd think Vito hardly won a round. The actual fight tells a very different story. Antuofermo made an impressive late-round surge that made it far too close for Hagler to ***** too much. Of course, he's going to do that because that's what Hagler does, but still.......

    Pintor-Zarate - One of those great "urban legends" fights where one reads so often that it was a horrible robbery that they just sing the same song themselves later. Have a look at the fight. Extremely close battle, and several close rounds that really could have gone either way. I think the main problem with the scoring was the wide disparity in scorecards, suggesting that there was dirty work afoot. The fight itself is certainly open for debate. I had Zarate by a couple, but only that. Very, very close bout.

    You?
     
  2. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, apologies..........the correct term is "noobity."


    Thank you.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    I wonder whether famously unpopular DRAWS, Chavez-Whitaker and Lewis-Holyfield 1 were true "robberies".
     
  4. salsanchezfan

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    Interesting picks, for sure.....
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    I'd say Lewis was more likely "robbed" than Whitaker, since he didn't get to walk away with Holyfield's two belts that night.
    Whitaker was champion, so retained the only title on the line in his fight.

    Obviously, both were unjustly denied the official "win", but I think people lose sight of the fact that an official DRAW is a mile away from being an official LOSER.

    Then it boils down to how unjust or bad a decision needs to be to qualify as a "robbery".
     
  6. RockyValdez

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    Holyfield was robbed more in the second Lewis fight than Lewis was in the first.
     
  7. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    nah.
     
  8. The Mongoose

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    Pac/Marquez III
    Oscar/Quartey
    Oscar/Whitaker
    Mayweather/Maidana I
    Cazlaghe/Hopkins
     
  9. Frankel

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    Lewis vs Holyfield 1 & 2 were both close fights, yet i feel it was Holyfield who was the winner of the fights and got robbed.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    In a way, yes.
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Solid List. I agree emphatically with each of these. People like to drum up controversy where it does not exist.
     
  12. RockyValdez

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    Good list. The only one Im not sure about is Mayweather-Maidana 1 but the others I had no problem with. Especially, Oscar/Whittaker. Ive never understood how some people can give a guy so many points for eating jabs, being backed up, and not offering anything in return except trying to avoid getting hurt in a flashy manner.
     
  13. MyName

    MyName Simon Adebisi Full Member

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    Hagler-Leonard.
     
  14. lora

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    but in even more ways...no.:yep
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    Agreed.
    I'm not sure anyone was robbed much in those fights.
    The PPV customers perhaps. :lol: