Robberies?

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  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Foreman v Briggs ( Foreman won?)
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  2. salsanchezfan

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  3. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    - Larry Donald as robbed blatantly against Nikolay Valuev

    - Michael Sprott was robbed against Volodymyr Vyrchys

    - Axel Shulz was robbed against George Foreman and Francois Botha

    - Larry Holmes was robbed against Brian Nielsen

    - Maurice Harris was robbed against Larry Holmes

    - a lot of Canelo's opponents were robbed against him LOL
     
  4. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman v Briggs ( Foreman won?)-Yes he did, it was the greatest single performance of Foreman's jab ever. Also, proof that he could have done one heck of a lot better during his losses had he relied on the jab a LOT more.

    Fury v Wilder I (Fury won?)- Maybe. I gave it to Wilder by one point. Didn't have a problem with the draw.

    Holyfield v Lewis I ( Lewis won?)- Yes

    Holyfield v Lewis II (Holyfied won?)- Yes, but by two points at the very most. Not a robbery, though imo.

    Holmes v Spinks II (Spinks was hurt on at least five occasions, nearly out in the 14th round. Holmes was unhurt throughout, and was the aggressor. To this day I have Larry ahead four points).
     
  5. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Schulz was robbed, yes. That was blatant. I always wondered if part of the reason Briggs won later is because the judges felt guilty over the Schulz fight lol.

    And Holmes was flat out robbed. Nielsen sucked.
     
  6. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's probably nothing here we haven't discussed before...

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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I thought it was 3 points. :dunno
     
  8. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shulz was unlucky guy . After being robbed against Foreman which, at least, was understandable since the fight had been held in USA and Foreman was a big star, he got robbed in Germany against Francois Botha, who wasn't a star, was a foreign fighter, but was promoted by Don King. I scored that fight 116-113 for Shulz. Can see it 116-112 or 115-113 for Shulz, but no Botha didn't deserve a win or even a draw in my opinion.
     
  9. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I recently rewatched the Harris vs Holmes fight. Harris gave Holmes hell and at least deserved a draw.
     
  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Completely, shame I didn't score it but I definitely felt Parker did enough to win it. Must've been desperate for that Hagler fight.
     
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  13. ChrisJS

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    I’m a big Holyfield fan but Lewis II was at absolute best for Holyfield a draw. That’s giving him everything.

    In recent times I felt Kovalev-Ward I was a crazy robbery. I was at the fight and had Kovalev by far but felt maybe it would look different on TV but closest I could do was 8-4 plus the knockdown.
     
  14. 88Chris05

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    Do people really question the verdict in Lewis-Holyfield II? I've heard people referencing this before, but I'm astonished that anyone could score that to Holyfield. Evander fought well in the rematch, and Lewis didn't dominate as much as people probably thought he would based on the first fight. The rounds were generally more competitive, but in terms of how I scored it I don't think Holyfield was that much closer to winning it than he was in the first fight, really.

    If the rematch had been scored a draw it would still have stunk in my opinion - just not quite as much as the first fight. But a Holyfield win? Just can't see how anyone could have had it like that. Would be interested to hear opinions / scorecards on that one if there are a few among us who thought Evander got a raw deal there.
     
  15. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s so ironic how many boxers have been on BOTH ENDS of a bad decision lol
     
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