Robbery In Germany!!!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by unitas, Sep 29, 2007.


  1. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    im not hating on anything. just pointing out boxing in germany is rigged.

    proof speaks for itself.
     
  2. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just said that german boxing will protect any fighter they can make money of.

    history speaks for itself.
     
  3. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

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    last time i looked, that was a guy called damian.

    get your facts straight.

    and that still dont excuse you from mocking WW2:
     
  4. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    coming from a propagandaminister like you, that means a lot:lol:
     
  5. kirk

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    how in the HELL.... is a fight so damn hard to score that some have it 118-111, and agree with the judges, and others have it for the other guy?

    judging boxing just isnt that hard....
     
  6. kirk

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    the news sites i go to says valuev won EASY... but chris pontius here says he didnt think valuev won, and i usually respect his opinion.
     
  7. chliJs

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    yea, sorry, you're right.

    you know we germans got problems with fighting on several frontiers at the same time (so no, i won't stop mocking about it - neither in germany where they want to gas you for doing this kind of jokes, nor in this board where -luckily- offensive stuff can be found on a daily basis).

    the thing is, except for the nonsense i also deliver stuff that's on point to the topic. so you better not concentrate on the entertainment part; when you want to really discuss the bad situation in german boxing, bring it on with facts instead of just bashing blindly.
     
  8. Boinko

    Boinko Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, this is weird. I didn't see the fight, but judging from the different reactions I have no idea what to think.
    Fightnews describes it as an easy victory for Valuev, yet some guy started a thread about the fight being a robbery.
    What the?
     
  9. Ethan Trims

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    Do you deny that germany is one of the most corrupt places in boxing?

    Arthur abraham has padded his record with fighters who werent ready for the big time and questionable decisions, Eastman. The sven otke thing was a little before my time, so I am not able to get into that.

    Sure many places have bad decisions, but in germany it seems these shitty decisions grow on trees.
     
  10. Boinko

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    Well, whatever the reason I'll just wait and check it out myself eventually. Well, maybe. It didn't sound all that exciting.
     
  11. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    okay, let me try:

    here is what i say: unlike other countries, in germany, all media regarding boxing is connected!!!
    that every boxingstable is linked to a certain tv channel (sauerland to ARD and Universum to ZDF).

    naturally the tv commentators are biased (and i dont even blame them).

    germany, a boxing crazy country by the tv numbers, only has one boxing mag ...."boxsport".

    and that mag is also being totally controlled by the big boxing companies.

    just look at the ratings in that mag at jr. welter:

    superchamp: hatton

    1. witter
    2.rees
    3.mbaye
    4. kotelnik
    5.marcos rene maidana (unranked before signing with spotlight/universum......suddenly in the ratings)
    6. sergej sorokin ( unranked until signing with german based arena boxing)
    7. ricardo torres
    8. paul malignaggi
    9. willy blain ( fighting for spotlight)
    10. vivian harris

    now boxing in the states is anything but clean, but this type of corruption and boxing news that border on propaganda is totally out of this world!!!

    so this is both tv and the press working together giving most people a totally deluded image of the true boxing world.

    such a thing i have so far only seen in germany.
     
  12. chliJs

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    so sven ottke was before your time? if this is the truth, you don't even know why germany has that kind of reputation. not necessarily because of ottke, but because of stuff before ottke.

    a padded record has nothing to do with robbery / i don't remember the abraham - eastman fight as i was no big fan of abraham until he showed heart against miranda, so i don't want to tell anything wrong about it.

    this makes exactly one questionable decision and it's from years ago. it's from around the time sturm got robbed against de la hoya, not to mention a lot of robberies without german fighters in them since then.

    i'm not interested in comparing countries in terms of corruptedness in boxing, so i won't answer this question.
     
  13. Ethan Trims

    Ethan Trims Active Member Full Member

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    4 years by my count but close. You might of thought abraham won the eastman fight but most people I heard who spoke of it didnt. I guess I will have to see the fight myself so I can be sure.

    Germany has gotten better? Damn I would of hated to see you guys before. Abraham had his jaw hanging off of his face and almost died in the ring.

    We both know that it is slim to none that abraham will ever give miranda a second shot at him. Hence the protects champion moniker.
     
  14. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    another interesting point about the miranda fight: the german ring doctor in attendance said he wanted to stop the fight if the fight had been stopped because of the headbutt.
    abraham would have retained the belt.

    but since the doc said it was due to a punch, abraham would have lost.

    thats why he let the fight go on. that is what he said himself!!!!

    usually, the ringdoctor is paid to ensure the safety of the fighter........not to make sure the local fighter wins.

    so much for boxing getting better in germany.:-(
     
  15. chliJs

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    and like you experienced today, they don't seem to be too biased, right? not to spread sympathy, because i can't stand a lot of them and i just don't like the concept of broadcasting boxing here, but even i've got to admit they're mostly telling the truth in terms of who's the better fighter... they never tell the truth when it's about whether a fight at all is good, interesting or whatever - because according to them, like 95% of all fights are the bomb.

    i don't know the mag particularly, but i know there are a lot more mags, including the ring.

    making this point irrelevant

    .. and the others also.

    so.. the german public gets robbed. because they're fed with fights of low quality too often. not even i care about that, even though i'm german myself. i pissed my pants laughing when i heard people booing axel schulz for delivering a totally expected performance. the media may exploit them, but there are bigger problems in the world so why should i worry about stuff like that? not even the fighters are harmed, like someone said before, they're even padded.

    i don't know. as i'm a poor ****er i don't exactly know, but i think with german pay per view you get all the big us fights, also. so what's the problem in getting a couple of b-class (and even some really good ones) for free. i don't get my expectations too high, and i'm getting entertained well.