Robbery is taking it a bit too far...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by shelterr, Jun 11, 2012.


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  1. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This was a reasonably close fight where the wrong guy won. I had Pac winning 8-4 or 7-5 and I can't see how Bradley does any better than a draw on any scorecard, but to say that it was a shutout or a domination is far from the truth.

    Rios-Abril, Casamayor-Santa Cruz, PWill-Lara, Cloud-Campillo, Guzman-Funeka 1. These are robberies.

    Pac-JMM 3 was another case of a close fight where the wrong guy won. It sucks, but it happens. If Pac hadn't taken rounds off he would have won the fight regardless. But he let an injured and subsequently flat footed Bradley counterpunch him in the mid to late rounds causing himself to look like he wasn't in control of the fight. Pac wasn't getting off so Bradley must have been doing something right.

    A rematch actually interests me quite a bit. Now that the two have fought each other, I'd like to see what a Legacy-minded Pac does against a more experience, non-injured Bradley. If Pac loses again (and legitimately this time) his standing as an ATG will be severly compromised.
     
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  2. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I scored it for Pac but you're spot on there were many close rounds and Pac took his foot off the gas in the Championship rounds , so a close fight that went ( for most ) the wrong way does not a robbery make , but this ESB we only get schoolings or robberies here.

    I'd watch a rematch

    Dont agree with the last bit though , everyone gets old.
     
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  3. Smokin' Joe

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    More and more people will realise and accept that it wasn't a robbery as time goes on. Bradley didn't deserve to win it, but he did well in the second half of the fight, controlling most of the action with a solid jab and combinations while Pacquiao did little for 2/3rds of the round, really took his foot off the gas. He has no one to blame for this but himself.

    If you had Pacquiao winning every round or all but one, just leave and never come back please.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    It wasn't close. It was competitive. Manny was the clear winner and it was a horrible robbery.
    He didn't dominate the fight but he controlled the majority of it.
    8-4 Is the best you can give Bradley and it is a fair score. He needed to win at least two more if he wanted to get a draw.
     
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  5. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Pac can't get Bradley out of there is a rematch, with his legacy in mind...how good is he really?

    And for all those who say Manny is slipping...I really don't think that age or anything like that is a factor. He has all the same tools he had against Hatton, Clottey and Margarito. Clever matchmaking makes all the difference.
     
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  6. Dedication

    Dedication Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was a competitive, but it wasn't close.

    Everyone should blame Arum, no one else.
     
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  7. kwilson71

    kwilson71 #MAYDAY Full Member

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    I really have to watch the fight again,but from what I seen the 1st time around I think Bradley won 3 rounds at best, I do remember Pac trying to steal some rounds at the in, I'm thinking the judges gave those to Bradley just on his workrate.
     
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  8. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol: When the guy who clearly won ends up losing, "robbery" is not taking it too far.
     
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  9. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hes a fighter who relies on speed ( yes and power ) in his 30s , Bradley is a quality fighter in his own right at just about physical peak. I dont see how not taking him in a rematch , though I think he would , undoes his previous work.

    Thats as much hyperbole as the folks screaming robbery.
     
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  10. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No robbery.
     
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  11. connorcinhull

    connorcinhull Active Member Full Member

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    I had it 114-113 Pacquiao.. Would have been 115-113 but in one round Pacquiao stopped his attack long enough to stagnate a bit and make me score it even..

    I don't think it was a robbery.. Wrong guy won but it wasn't a clear cut event. It was close.
     
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  12. JohnAnthony

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    Abril Rios was a robbery too. But at least you could argue that rios through a lot more punches and was the aggressor (I still thought a robbery)

    But this was mile worse. Because Pac was the agressor too.
     
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  13. irishny

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    Dont think it had anything to do with Bradley being an American.

    Pacquiao has been based out of America for a decade. He trains there with an American coach and fights there.
     
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  14. Bladegunner

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    How he Changes his tune when his hero is robbed. Wasn't saying **** when Marquez was robbed
     
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  15. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    7-5 Pac, some peoples 11-1 or 10-2 scores are way off.
     
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