Robert Byrd: Judges screwed up decision

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I do agree with you. What I meant was that with the very flawed scoring method boxing uses, it's quite easy to score it for the guy that everyone saw lose if not at least 7 rounds were dominated.
Malicious scoring is pretty damn easy due to "seeing" a round differently. A dominated round is scored exactly the same as a "could go either way" one, and in this case almost all those were scored for Ward (the home fighter). That way in many cases a fight can be scored "close" for the wrong guy, with some exceptions where it's so clearly a robbery like Matthysse vs Alexander for instance, in which Matty dominated half of the rounds and scored a KD, but you could easily score the others for Alexander. Never enough though to actually win.

In this case it's different. You can find enough rounds for Ward, if you really want to score it for him. Even 8 to 4 is you're really pushing it. Wrong? Of course! It really isn't remotely close to what actually happened.
I see the Ward riders here using that exact method to justify a clear robbery. Ward never won this fight, and I'm pretty damn sure that if what they did in the ring had been reversed, Ward would have won with scores like 117-110 or 118-109 on the same judges cards.

 

Ah... no.

He was much better placed to score it than you (or me).

In some jurisdictions, the Ref is the sole scorer if it goes the distance.

Until recently title fights in the US were scored by the ref and two judges, as in FOTC Ali Frazier (1), Ali Norton (1) etc.

The two polls on here had Kovalev winning by a two to one margin.

The press row by 2.5 :1 had it for Kovalev.

Larry Merchant called the decision home cooking.

BOTH fighters looked shocked at the decision.

Now the ref weighs in with his take.

Everybody knows Andre got the decision, but not too many believe he actually won the fight.

 

Ah....yes The ref thinks Kovalev won? Guess what? His opinion doesn't change the official outcome of the fight, a Kovalev loss. Some people think that Alvarez lost to Lara and Pac lost the third fight to Marquez. Doesn't change a thing. Just like Byrd's opinion doesn't change a thing. If Byrd thought Ward won, we wouldn't be having this conversation because you wouldn't feel that his opinion was important.

 

I already said that.

Did you read the post ?

Did you get to the last line where I said...

True, but Byrd didn't think Ward won because he was right there and saw what happened.

The crowd was right there and saw what happened and made their opinions known during the interviews.

It's unusual for a ref to publicly take exception to a decision, so that tells us that he didn't see it as an either-way fight.



Like I said, Boxrec will record it as a W for Ward and an L for Kovalev, but everybody (nearly everybody) knows who actually won the fight.

 

The fight could have gone either way in my eyes. You and others think that Kovalev won? I don't have a problem with that. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm not going to change mine just because someone else feels differently. By the way, referees were stopped from scoring major pro fights for a reason.

 

Ward went through with the fight because he was told by box nation be on your feet at the end and you'll get the dec. I forecast this ...... It happened
Byrd let Billy Goat Ward rush in head first Then hold like a limpet. Watch how many of Wards body punches "strayed" low. Sergey knew it was no good complaining to Byrd. He was doing a Cortez/Bayless type job.
All I asked for in this fight was, the same as any other fight I watch. A good clean fight with no controversy & the BETTER man get the win. That did NOT happen as I should have known. It was held in Vegas,promoted by Bpx Nation!! how could it be on the level??? Boxing is Corrupt !!

 

Ward went through with the fight because he was told by box nation be on your feet at the end and you'll get the dec. I forecast this ...... It happened
Byrd let Billy Goat Ward rush in head first Then hold like a limpet. Watch how many of Wards body punches "strayed" low. Sergey knew it was no good complaining to Byrd. He was doing a Cortez/Bayless type job.
All I asked for in this fight was, the same as any other fight I watch. A good clean fight with no controversy & the BETTER man get the win. That did NOT happen as I should have known. It was held in Vegas,promoted by Bpx Nation!! how could it be on the level??? Boxing is Corrupt !!

 

We're reasonably close to being on the same page here, as to what went down , who was the official winner, even if we differ on interpreting the scores.

My original point was to disagree with the idea that Byrd's opinion was no better than 'yours or mine.'

Aside from him being a professional referee and a professional boxing judge with over 100 fights judged, including many title bouts, he was in the ring and had a better view than anybody else, including the judges, who were confined to one viewpoint.

 

Byrd had one perspective. The judges collectively had three. Byrd can't see through the fighters and a lot of time action takes place at a side at which the ref can't see. Refs were stopped from judging fights for a reason. Byrd's opinion only matters to people who share the same opinion. To me, his opinion means less than yours because I feel he is being unprofessional by making these comments.

 

Wait, people are still taking this seriously? It was a fake Twitter account guys. There's a reason the article in the OP has been deleted.