Robert Gabriel "The Nordic Nightmare" Helenius

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Closing the book on the Kownacki rivalry - with a stoppage last year and then an even more dominant showing with his disqualification victory in their rematch last night - the Finn can move on to bigger things, as the clock winds down on the soon to be 38 year old's career. He came into the Kownacki rematch with a pretty high ranking, albeit only by a single org - #3 in the WBA - but not top 15 in any of the other three.

    After his second consecutive W over Kownacki (ranked #10 by the WBA yesterday), he may or may not inch closer to a mandatory position. In his way are #1 Dubois and #2 Hunter. The pot of gold at the rainbow's end would be "regular" world champion Trevor Bryan, "champion in recess" Mahmoud Charr, or the actual top guy, "super" champion Oleksandr Usyk.

    In my opinion, Robbe should give up any quixotic notions of chasing after Usyk - there's no planet on which Helenius can win that fight. I would also say to not bother with Fury, but Helenius is absent from the WBC rankings anyway so moot point.

    He should 100% target Bryan or Charr, or former interim champ Dubois (whom the WBA stripped and ordered to have a box-off with Bryan so as to consolidate the belts and clean up their longstanding mess, reducing us to just two superfluous titlists instead of three) because he would have an excellent chance of toppling any of them. In fact, the contender just ahead of him in the rankings, Michael Hunter (against whom I'd make Helenius about 50-50) - represent a bigger challenge than either of the lesser belt holders or the powerful but slow & limited Brit directly ahead of him.

    A fan of Robbe's shouldn't feel super confident about him versus Dubois or Hunter necessarily, but if they pave the way to an easy night's work against Bryan or Charr to finally realize his world championship dream (even if just the WBA, in the last days of its splintered belt era) - then it would doubtless be one thousand percent worth the risk. And how could anyone not be a Robbe fan?



    Has run hot & cold in the pros with some more tepid performanes than others, but for the most part has a very aesthetically pleasing in-ring style and is super likeable guy. "Bro please stop hitting me in the gonads, wtf bro, why you gottta do this? :("
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    He'll be 38 in January, btw, so almost certainly by the next time he fights. Impressive that he's doing this well this deep, and that he kept the right attitude in dusting himself off after the Gerald Washington setback.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    I just followed his official Twitter account, but all it seems to be is a script not tweeting out an update anytime his boxing related blog (Nordic Nightmare Daily Wisdoms) has new content...which sounds exciting, until you realize there's nothing written by Robbe himself, just links to various boxing articles by different people from multiple other sites. :lol: :shakehead:
     
  4. Abysswalker

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    I don't know, judging by his boxing ability i suggest that he becomes " Teen Slasher Movie Nightmare" instead of "The Nordic Nightmare" but both sounds fine i guess. Also his fight with Kownacki was like a trucker fight from a technical standpoint. I am still sorry that Kownacki didn't go full Golota and triple uppercut comboed Helenius balls.
     
  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Hagiographer Full Member

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    He looked better than in any of his fights I've seen since Chisora, admittedly I've not seen a good few of his fights though.

    If he gets the opportunity for the big fight against Usyk or Fury (or Joshua), he'dls got to take it. Just getting one of those fights is more meaningful than a WBS regular or interim title.

    I don't fancy his chances against any of those guys, but good luck to the Scandinavian Cinderella
     
  6. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Active Member Full Member

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    Is he going to be stuck in the never ending WBA heavyweight Bermuda triangle? Hopefully hes able to land another high profile fight before riding off into the Nordic sunset
     
  7. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I thought he did well, I was more impressed with Sanchez to be honest but helinious looked strong.
     
  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For nordic blood fighting isn't prize fighting to entertain ppl for amusement and entertainment purposes.
    Modern yanks and Co does have dreams what stuff fighting is or stuff derived from business with pajamas.

    Nordic blood is different thing per se. LOL.
    Not to live with purpose to entertain customers for sure.
     
  9. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

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    Skilled and expert fighter. Not a phenomenon though.

    Kownacki is too easy to hit. Hes a slower version of Andy Ruiz.
     
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  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I doubt he has the promotional power behind him to really get any significant fights. He's 38 and beating Kownacki is cool and all but it won't really open that many doors for him.

    I hope he can secure a decent fight and get another decent payday. I've always liked him even after the Chisora fight.
     
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  11. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very physically stay humble Full Member

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    He'd beat the crap out of Manuel Cartwheels, not that that's saying much, and I have no idea how good Trevor Bryan is but he looks like a tub of goo, so I'd say that'd be a fairly winnable fight on paper as well. Hunter would be a risky fight and wouldn't do much for him. Usyk is suicide.

    I'd love Helenius to beat the crap out of Ruiz but I think Ruiz wouldn't go near him after Saturday night. Chisora rematch would be very easy to make and worth doing. Both have had Indian Summers of late, and their first fight was a massive robbery. Give Chisora the chance to get revenge or Hellboy to beat him fair and square this time.
     
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  12. Max Thunder

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    I'm just happy Sugar Robert Helenius has managed to somewhat redeem himself after that very long and dreary period of 2012-2017. I know many people who completely stopped following his career during that time. There is still some fight left in this old viking warrior.
     
  13. Dangerwood84

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    Glad to see him do well, injury absolutely savaged this guy, at a time when he was a very legit contender. A full of confidence, injury free and a couple years younger Roberto would be a top 5 heavy for sure. Seems to me that it took him a long time to be fully confident again after his injuries.
     
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  14. WhataRock

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    The swedes must be so proud of him.
     
  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Best Chin On ESB Full Member

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    His shoulder tear really hurt his career. He was a savage puncher with his right hand before the injury. I think people forget this.