Robert Garcia: Why is Kell Brook ducking Rios?

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    The rios fight isn't going to happen in august. He's taking a fight in june, and can you blame him? why should he wait for Brook, after Brook gave Gavin a shot instead of him when he was available. If he fights a Chaves instead in August that'll make up for it though, I'm just incredibly doubtful. I'd be satisfied with Chaves/Rios for the next 2 fights even though there are more challenging fights to be made.
     
  2. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair enough. Only time will tell.
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even if Brook fights Chaves/Rios after Gavin, I get credit for making the better choice, because clearly 99% of us besides Hans, and some other uk folk would rather see rios/bradley than gavin/rios/chaves. But, I'll definitely giving Brook credit, and eat my crow for doubting him :good.
     
  4. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Shameful duck by kell
     
  5. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You must be kidding. Rios is a punching bag.
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    He called a bunch of names out, Rios was the only one available for his next fight. Why call someone out but then fight a guy that lost to Thurman's tune up? If that's not a duck then I don't know what is.
     
  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  8. DSG496

    DSG496 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Brook did want khan, who turned it down. What people say on camera and what happens behind closed doors are two different things, boxing's a business, and Rios has little name value in UK (neither goes gavin admittedly) he'll probably get 4x in the USA than what Gavins getting, I doubt it'll make that much difference to ppv / ticket sales in the UK if brook fought gavin or rios.

    I'd rather see a brook vs rios fight, or a brook vs Thurman fight for that matter, but that's not how boxing business works. If Rios says "i'll fight brook for $100k" then fine brooks ducking, but I suspect that's not the case.

    Thurman's last 3 opponents have been a shot guerrero, a 40year old bundu who had him running, and diaz? not exactly murders row is it. Lets see who he fights next.
     
  9. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Look we know Rios fought Pac and that's why you're pushing him as some sort of monster but he been found wanting against the top fighters where he has been outclassed badly. The Abril and Pac fights were one sided bore fests and losing to Alvarado is flat out embarrassing. Without the weight advantage he carried at 135 he's really nothing to worry about. He's got a good chin but that's the only part of him that his genuinely world class.

    Brook delivers another one sided loss to Rios easily.
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, but that 40 year old beat Brook's next opponent :rofl:rofl. And Julio Diaz beat Porter in their first fight, and definitely has an argument for a draw or win over Khan. Why does Rios have to fight himf or 100k for it to be ducking. That's some ridiculous logic. Rios/Chaves/Thurman etc are not exactly huge draws, so I guess you're going to give Brook an excuse for not fighting them, and be satisfied with him fighting the JoJo dan's of the world because boxing is "business" :lol:.
     
  11. Bensub

    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Brook beats rios and Bradley IMO. Brooks timing is so so good it's unreal. Still think he would have major probs with Thurman and khan though.
     
  12. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To sell Gavin to ignorant UK fans, PPV fight vs Gavin and his last defense was vs JoJo :patsch
    He surprised me vs Porter who is far from anything special, but thats good win and now he has 2 of the worst defenses back to back in last who knows how many years :dead
     
  13. DSG496

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    I'm not saying gavin is a good opponent he's clearly not, but neither is Rios. You seem to think that someone talking **** in front of a camera is an offer and any rejection of this is a duck, Anyone can do that, I could do that calling out klitscho, doesn't mean he's ducking me. Rios isn't ranked by IBF, he's done little at WW why does he deserve a brook fight? Jojo dan may be **** but at least he bothered going around the world fighting eliminators to get his shot.

    and when did diaz become good, he'd lost around 10 times at lower weights before Thurman fought him.
     
  14. DSG496

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    think his defences are better than quiggs and santa cruz's

    the WW division does need a shake up and Floyd dropping his belts and possibly retiring should help, khans staying safe hoping for Floyd, brooks hoping for khan, maidana, Bradley, Thurman, possibly Garcia moving up too. There's some decent fights between them lot, but they don't want to risk a loss in the hope they get a huge payday.

    i'll give him a pass on jojo, as its mando + he was coming back from an injury, not remotely impressed with Gavin, but to be fair to brook they did offer the fight to Khan, who turned it down, and gavin isn't much worse than rios imo. If he's going to fight 4 times a year I don't mind a few **** ones its when boxers (kahn) fight twice a year and still pick someone way down the rankings that really annoys me.
     
  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, I'm saying if "YOU", call someone out and don't fight them when they're the only available option out of the names you called out from, it's considered ducking. If Rios called Brook out and Brook didn'T fight him I could care less, but Brook himself called him out. Get your facts straight. JoJo Dan got a bs title elim against Dan Blizier. The fact that either of them got a world title shot is an absolute joke.
    I never said Diaz was good, but he beat Porter, and arguably beat or drew with Khan. Definitely a way better name than Dan, and Gavin. And since when was guerrero shot? :rofl. Thurman has a better resume than Brook and he doesn't even hold a major title. Brook should be fighting better opposition, if Thurman held the IBF do you think he'd be fighting his tuneups left over? Don't think so.