Robert Helenius vs David Haye

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  1. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Who takes this one if they fought?
     
  2. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Haye. Quicker, more skilled and just plain better.

    Helenius has potential but he's not ready for one of the top guys yet. He has very good power but he's a bit ponderous and was being out-worked at times by a horribly out-of-shape Sam Peter.

    The rumour is that Haye put it on him pretty badly when they sparred before the Wlad fight.
     
  3. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Helenius with ease.

    Lots of rumors go around about sparring. Helenious himself siad he was shocked at how well he did.

    Helenius is as big as Wlad, has a better chin, and two-fisted power. Unlike Wlad, he loved to engage. Not saying Helelnius is better than Wlad, or even as good as Wlad at this point, but he presents a similar package of skills.
     
  4. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Helenius IS the type of stand up Euro fighter Haye feasts on.

    He is nothing like Wlad. Haye won't find him hard to hit, but Hellenius won't be able to hit Haye.

    Haye will give him a beating, and make it look easy.
     
  5. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WRONG.

    Helenius is NOTHING like Wlad. He is just BIG.
     
  6. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Helenius has no stamina, and lost some rounds to a 260lb Peter....I think Haye would win.
     
  7. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    The only similarity I see between Wlad and Helenius is that they're both big. Their fighting styles are totally different and there's also a big disparity in ability.

    I think Helenius is too slow and predictable for Haye. He doesn't have the jab or ring IQ of Wlad to keep Haye where he wants him either.

    Haye by ko.
     
  8. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    The only way Helenius wins this is if Haye decides to slug it out (like he always says he will but has only done so against lower-tier opposition like Audley, Ruiz and frickin' Monte Barrett)... in that case, I would say Helenius KO... otherwise Haye wide decision
     
  9. aka TORA

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    to early for helenius
     
  10. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    Helenius has the better resume at HW, but is probably too green. Give him a year or two more.
     
  11. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think he had some butterflys against Peter. He has been much more consistant with his jab in other fights.
     
  12. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wrong, Haye has feasted on ****ing bums like Audley Harrison, Monte Barrett and John Ruiz. He barely beat an average paper champion in Valuev in a dreadful display. Haye has no ****ing Heavyweight resume, it is complete garbage.
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Helenius is a terrible fighter. One of the worst top 10 heavyweights I've ever seen but, thankfully, he'll soon be just a memory. Awful fighter with very few redeeming qualities.

    Great fan base though. Those Finnish fans are awesome.
     
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    You just described Haye.

    How does that L feel little *****?
     
  15. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At least he shows up to fight. Haye knows he has no chin, so he is on the defensive at all times, runs the entire fight, his strategy is just to be safe and look to land one knock out punch all night long. The Valuev, Audley, and Klitschko fights were absolutey patetic and horrible. And Haye claims Wlad is the cure for insomnia, he is just as lame or even worse.