Robert Helenius vs David Haye

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  1. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Helenius has many flaws in his game for example hes easy to pull and then open for counters. if you watch his fight with Bidenko.. Hes actually taylor made for someone like Haye who lungs in with explosive and heavy shots from the outside..
    But Helenius is also dangerous because he got power himself and actually throws combinations. much more difficult to avoid for Haye. Most heavys these days stick to 1-2s. I´d see it something like 70-30, 60-40 in Hayes favor if they fought now..
     
    Escopeta, Jul 12, 2011
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  2. JunitoJab

    JunitoJab Antagonist Full Member

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    Haye by KO..
     
    JunitoJab, Jul 12, 2011
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  3. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    first i wanna see helenius in shape, not this flubby kid looking guy. he is very slow, bad stamina, bad defence. what goes for him is his very very big power, very accurate punches, tall and good chin. thats all. but this is enough to make a fight
     
    Mordechai, Jul 12, 2011
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  4. canis-lupus

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    Thats not true. It was very draw sparring and as we know whose chin is better...
     
    canis-lupus, Jul 12, 2011
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  5. Relentless

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    if haye had a hard time sparring helenius he wouldn't have sparred him at all, haye's camp sparring is all about confidence.
     
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  6. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ??? What ???
    Funniest **** I heard in a long time!:patsch:rofl

    U want ur sparring to be as tough as possible not as easy as possible ..

    SRL - Ali - hearns - etc would swap sparring partners every 2-3rds and would get bonus if they hurt their masters.
     
    timeout, Jul 12, 2011
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  7. Relentless

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    its not easy and why do you care what the **** he does?

    haye's camp sparring is about following the gameplan and keeping confidence high.
     
    Relentless, Jul 12, 2011
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  8. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just trying to educate u son.
    ^^^^^^so u don't go making a prat of urself on the forums.
     
    timeout, Jul 12, 2011
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  9. Relentless

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    educate me on what?

    that hagler, hearns and ali have tough sparring?

    i already knew that but haye doesn't do it the same way.

    so what exactly were you teaching me white boy?
     
    Relentless, Jul 12, 2011
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  10. Goodhill

    Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose Full Member

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    Agreed - you have to toughen your hide with hard sparring.
     
    Goodhill, Jul 12, 2011
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  11. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I always knew u were a troll but I at least figured u knew a bit about baaaxing.
    Now I know u don't know **** :)

    Oh btw I am Asian, not that it makes any difference to the topic:patsch
     
    timeout, Jul 12, 2011
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  12. Relentless

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    what exactly dont i know you jap tranny?

    you're a ****in rat eating ***** and all this time you were pretending to be white ho chi minh boy.:rofl
     
    Relentless, Jul 12, 2011
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  13. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    Helenius UD
     
    Slacker, Jul 12, 2011
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  14. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Helenius looks great against outta shape ex champs

    Haye is an inshape ex champ

    I dont like Haye and see him has limited

    just a fast guy with a right hand but very sloppy and no way to set it up and no other go to punch

    but that said Helenius probably isnt ready and hed give him the Valuev treatment of dance around the big man while pot shotting him

    like he did vs Wlad but Wlad was quicker than he expected and was able to corner him

    Helenius i dont think is quick enough to corner or put a jab on Haye

    Haye wins his typical fight at heavyweight a boring one
     
    KO KIDD, Jul 12, 2011
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  15. Kalasinn

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    Haye has faced two superheavys in his whole career, & he ran like a coward from both...

    I pick a controversial decision for either, or KO for Helenius if he lands a flush bomb.
     
    Kalasinn, Jul 12, 2011
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